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Started, with a, as you point out, well-written, well-documented, very specific report that s available to the public. it did not come alive today. this was not razzle-dazzle. this was not the movie version of the book. so frank figliuzzi, it was probably known to you that rumors were circulating the last six months about some sort of perhaps age-related organic diminishment on the part of mr. mueller, and now begins the press coverage to kind of backfill that and explain what we saw or didn t see today. i quote to you from the new york times tonight. soon after the special counsel s office opened in 2017, some aides noticed that robert mueller kept noticeably shorter hours than he had as fbi director when he showed up at the bureau daily at 6:00 a.m., often worked nights. he seemed to cede substantial responsibility to his top deputies, including aaron zebley, who managed date-day operations. ....
Intelligence committee chairman adam schiff totaled it all up from today. russia interfered in our election to help trump. russians made numerous contacts with the campaign. the campaign welcomed their help. no one reported these contacts or interference to the fbi. they lied to cover it up. that was the quote. that was the summation after a protracted presentation. mueller started the day in front of house judiciary, where he was asked about trump s claims of exoneration and his possible legal exposure once he leaves office. the president has repeatedly claimed that your report found there was no obstruction and that it completely and totally exonerated him. but that is not what your report said, is it? correct. it is not what the report said. so the report did not conclude that he did not commit obstruction of justice. is that correct? that is correct. ....
That kind of language but that s not the kind of clarion call clarity that i think people were hoping for from this hearing. and i m struck, brian, that this is really the third time democrats have fallen into this trap of regarding mueller as sort of a messiah figure who was going to provide some sort of unifying, overarching indictment of, you know, numerous people across the trump campaign and the trump white house for their actions in the 2016 campaign. that didn t happen. then the report came out and it didn t really have the coup de grace against the president that would inexorably lead to impeachment. a lot of damaging information but no direct accusations of a crime. and then this hearing was sort of ginned up by the house members, the democratic house members, who thought, well, this will be it. we ll be able to get mueller on the record here and that will really cause many people in the american public to get the message and, again, a bit of a letdown today. so i think there ....
House counsel fame, remains at the top of the democrats witness list. mcgahn sat with mueller, you ll remember, 30-plus hours. his name is mentioned 500-plus times in the report. most notably in this detail, volume 2, june of 2017. the president called mcgahn, directed him to have the special counsel removed. so there s that. democrats say that s proof of attempt obstruction of justice. white house instructed mccann mcgahn, rather. i sound like that member of congress today who could not get his name right. mcgahn to defy a judiciary committee subpoena, an issue the courts will ultimately decide, perhaps months from now. with us for our conversation tonight, two returning veterans. phillip rucker, pulitzer prize-winning white house bureau chief for the washington post, and john heilemann, veteran journalist, msnbc national affairs analyst, co-author of game change, co-host of the circus on showtime. phil, you ll excuse me. ....
Into propaganda, kept it from democrats, that we will look back on this in history and say at that moment democrats needed to step forward and take control and fight. then three months ago, four months ago, april, whatever it was, and that everything that s happened since then, the attenuation of this, the stalling, the lag time, the energy has just dissipated. despite the fact the report is damning. in fact, made all the more galling because it is so damning. but i feel as though democrats have consistently missed the moment to act with the kind of alacrity and the kind of force and ruthlessness in some ways that republicans often act with, and that was necessary if you were going to counter the kind of display of power that bill barr and donald trump put on in fighting this thing off. and phil rucker, it is true, the bold stroke is available to them. we sometimes forget. it is true, congress loves them some time off, especially in the summer. and such a thing would screw up a lot o ....