Was one of the largest allegations . I believe it was the Largest National delegation. Included in that delegation was Secretary Perry. Secretary perry, ambassador sondland, myself, ron johnson was there, and at the u. S. Embassy at the time joe pennington. We have talked a little bit this morning, but the president zelenskys inauguration came together quickly . Did. We had three days notice in which to put the delegation together. There has been discussion whether the Vice President was going to lead that effort and as it turned out, he was not able to lead it. Do you have any information where the Vice President was unable to join . I dont. Mr. Morrison, do you have any information as to why the Vice President was unable to participate in the delegation . No. Ambassador volker, you testified during your deposition that aid in fact gets held up from time to time for a whole assortment of reasons, is that your understanding . That is true. Sometimes the holdups are rooted in something
About fighting corruption, we should also say specifically, burisma in 2016. Mr. Yermak provided me a statement. I wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. Giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to President Trump and solve this problem that i had observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. The problem being that he is getting a bad set of information, a Statement Like this could potentially correct that. Was mr. Guiliani satisfied with the statement . No, he was not. He believed it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, would not mean anything. So in fact, mr. Guiliani wanted a statement that Referenced Burisma and the 2016 elections explicitly. One that would benefit, essentially, President Trump. It is to invest or come here is the text you sent to the ukrainian official on August August 13th. Lets put that up on the screen. You said, hi,
Ukraine had a statement about Fighting Corruption and mr. Yermak would say burr mace in 2016. Mr. Yermak provided me a draft statement, and i wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. Giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to President Trump and solve this problem that id observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. The problem that hes getting a bad set of information, Statement Like this could potentially correct that. So was mr. Giuliani satisfied with this statement . No, he was not. Why not . He believed that it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, it would not mean anything new. So, in fact, mr. Jewel yagiu wanted it to State Burisma and
one specifically for President Trump. Mr. Ambassador, heres the text you sent to the ukrainian official on august 13th, lets put that up on the screen. You said hi, andre. Good talking. Following is the
May, i believe you testified it was one of the largest delegations . I believe it was. I cant be 100 sure but i believe it was the Largest National delegation. Okay. And included in the delegation was Secretary Perry. Secretary perry, ambassador sondland, myself and senator ron johnson was there and the target defair joe pennington. And we talked a little bit this morning but the president Zelensky Inauguration came together rather quickly. It did. I believe we had about three days notice in which to put the delegation together. And there is discussion about whether the Vice President would be able to lead that effort and as it turned out he was not able to lead it. Do you have any information as to why the Vice President was unable to join . I dont. And mr. Morrison, do you have any information as to why the Vice President was unable to participate in the delegation . No. Ambassador volker, you testified during your deposition that aid does, in fact, get held up from time to time for
Theres a question of what point does amending a testimony become straightup lying or perjuring one self . One said that the testimony of other witnesses helped to refresh their memories and see in new light their own experiences and will be instructive to see what volcker has to say for himself on the two key questions, quid pro quo, bribery plot, and what he was doing with Rudy Giuliani. His testimony was that he Rudy Giuliani as being a nuance and more helpful to bring Rudy Giuliani in and help him understand that he was promulgating the debunked conspiracy scenarios instead of freelance out there in ukraine. Jeff bennett on capitol hill for us, thank you very much. Joining us is democrat congressman jim himes from connecticut. Congressman, your questioning of
control knell vind man was one of the more emotional moments this morning. I wonder if you could look back to that for us this morning. Yeah. Well, it was a pretty tough moment for me. We had gotten word and sort of saw on soci