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thank you very much. president trump survives travel ban of six mostly muslim nations now seems to be a bit on shaky ground. the fourth circuit court dealing another blow to this last week decided not to reinstate it. as a result, the justice department has announced it will appeal to the supreme court. some experts say the high court to refuse to take that up in what could happen then and will it be upheld or shot down yet again? kimberly atkins, washington porter from the boston herald joins us now. kimberly, it was pretty strong on thursday. it was 10 to three. one judge writing that the ban drips with religious intolerance, and a miss and discrimination. is that fair? well, look him in the trump administration had urged courts to only look at the language of the second order, the revised one in determining whether there is a religious animus as the challenges allege. time after time, we see court declined to do that in looking at other information including