and have saved hundreds of thousands of lives. in fact, they re getting together here on washington on sunday. but they don t want you to call it an anti vax march. instead, they call it defeat the mandate squad. they outline how anti-vaxxers win people over. by focusing on vaccine mandates as an entry point. joining me now are the two reporters we just mentioned, brandi who has covered the anti-vaccine movement, and ben collins, who covers, to use his term, the they are frankly the very best at covering these issues, even though i ve seen reporters as thank you both for being here. brandon i m gonna start with you, how did the vaccine become part of these groups? well, in order they ve been around as long as
epiphany for him. the mob, the flag, the violence, justin thought, it didn t feel right. it got me, he said later. i was supposed to be a part of a movement, but did i just get duped? the extremism of the trump years often stoked by trump himself may have culminated with the capitol riot. but a year later that extremism is still out there. many of these groups are now attacking the covid vaccines that are saved hundreds of thousands of lives. in fact, they re getting together here in washington on sunday, but they don t want you to call it an anti-vax march. no, no, no, no. instead, they call it a defeat the mandates march. reporting on the event ben collins of nbc news outlines how anti-vaxers win people over by often focusing on vaccine mandates as an entry point. joining me now are the two reporters we just mentioned,
reporter: with president biden back in washington, the white house continued to try to clarify his comments that russian president vladimir putin can note remain in power. those comments which the president made in a speech in poland on saturday caught many of his aides by surprise as they were not part of his prepared speech and seemed to suggest he wanted to see regime change in russia, which would mark a significant change in u.s. foreign policy. but president biden was asked directly by reporters here in washington on sunday whether he meant that he wanted regime change in russia, and he said no. secretary of state antony blinken further elaborated on what the white house s view on the matter circumstances the president, the white house made the point last night that quite simply, president putin cannot be empowered to wage war or engage in aggression against ukraine or anyone else. as you know. and as you heard us say
johnson s cabinet says downing street believes it s up to the russian people to decide who leads them. now, on sunday, cnn spoke with a ukrainian lawmaker to get her reaction to biden s comments. listen. the general perception of a democratic world, and such person who is trying to invade other independent states, we witnessed in georgia in the 90s was moldova, we had so many other military exercises and military, et cetera. which are proving that the this is a playground of geopolitics for putin and i think, you know, this war has to be taken straight forward. putin does not represent the whole russian people. we do believe there has to be an internal protest which can become bigger and bigger only,
power. cnn arlette signs with the details from the white house. reporter: the white house continued to try to clarify his comments that russian president vladimir putin cannot remain in power, those comments which the president made in a speech in poland on saturday caught many of his aides by surprise. they were not part of his prepared speech and seems to suggest he wanted to see regime change in russia which would mark a significant change in u.s. foreign policy but president biden was asked directly by reporters here in washington on sunday whether he meant that he wanted regime change in russia and he said no. secretary of state antony blinken further elaborated on what the white house s view on the matter is. the president, the white house, made the point last night that, quite simply, president putin cannot be empowered to