epiphany for him. the mob, the flag, the violence, justin thought, it didn t feel right. it got me, he said later. i was supposed to be a part of a movement, but did i just get duped? the extremism of the trump years often stoked by trump himself may have culminated with the capitol riot. but a year later that extremism is still out there. many of these groups are now attacking the covid vaccines that are saved hundreds of thousands of lives. in fact, they re getting together here in washington on sunday, but they don t want you to call it an anti-vax march. no, no, no, no. instead, they call it a defeat the mandates march. reporting on the event ben collins of nbc news outlines how anti-vaxers win people over by often focusing on vaccine mandates as an entry point. joining me now are the two reporters we just mentioned,
what they said cast a new light on fred s story of that awful day. a little tickling at the back of their neck had sent up some red flags to them. reporter: they told sheriff bruce that, as they called 911 and set out to help in the search, fred was frantic one minute, then seemed calm the next. they said the vibes were all wrong from him. they became very uncomfortable. reporter: did they kind of, like, in hindsight think back? or was it right then? they were immediately concerned that something was amiss. reporter: it was the husband, justin, who found leslie s body in the creek, but he told the sheriff that initially fred had sent him off to search too far downstream. he drove up a short ways and said he was sure that his wife s body was somewhere in that area. justin thought that was odd. reporter: was it possible that fred was disoriented? it s kind of a tough area to navigate. it s possible. reporter: yet sheriff bruce