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Over? steve: i think we get a real scare every couple of days from new announcements from the white house. there s a gap here on the ground. it s hard psychologically for ukrainians fighting massive war with their neighbor russia. many families intertwined, generations close ties, psychologically they aren t there yet. mike: ukrainians are proud people and they are prepared to fight for their sovereignty, that sounds it could be bloody, right? steve: unbelievably bloody. hard to imagine for anybody. 25 years ago russia fought a war in chetznia. ukraine has 44 million. they have an army, they have allies, no telling what could happen. mike: important historical context from the man steve harrigan on the ground there. steve, thanks very much. ....