waiting in the wings. the alternative to desantis would be a man like glenn youngkin who shares many of desantis positions but has a different style and approach. when it comes to the social conservative part of the republican party and the right using their political power to challenge the cultural left in education, in corporate america, in the media, and in the public health authorities, i don t think there s any going back for the near future. i m quite confident i speak for david french here, if i don t, david can correct me after i ask you this question, matthew, but over the past six years the two things that have disturbed me the most have been the right s positions on race and my own churches, the evangelical churches posture towards trumpism and some of the things we ve seen. i spent my entire life going on shows, going on politically
conservative movement and the american people, we ve seen the right become much more pow you louse, more more nationalistic, much more like overseas, and we ve seen the right embrace a strategy of using political power, which they are very good at getting, to attack the cultural power of the left. i think that s what s happening here in the disney case. they re responding and punishing disney for coming out so strongly against the florida parental education law. matt, elise jordan here. i m really excited for your book. i ve always enjoyed your writing. this is such an important topic. but could you tell me how in the book you address the authoritarian strain that really has come into focus on the right? that s what i ve observed over the last four years working with a polling group, going around doing over 100 focus groups. what has surprised me is the shift in thought on the right towards a more authoritarian-leaning philosophy.
can t kind of if they their way, they would put their head in the sand. but unfortunately, they didn t have their way and there was a lot of brouhaha against them. to your point, joe, the answer is less is more for companies, but sometimes they can get this is going to be a big thing going forward with corporations. as i said earlier, young people want to take stances. they re damned if they do and damned if they don t. i feel for disney. they need to be thoughtful to it. let s bring in founding editor of the washington freebie continue, author of the right: the 100-year war for american conservativism. thank you so much. how timely for you to come in on this conversation on where conservativism is right now. give us your thesis. it s fascinating. thank you, joe and mika, for having me. i think the way it relates to our current discussion at the moment is since the end of the world war, without communism to unite the conservative movement and to provide a connection on nation
the 100-year war for american conservativism. david, can you pick up on the race issue? i know your experience is the same as my experience. yeah. you know, i think another dynamic here is it has become so people on the right have become so focused on combatting political correctness and being provocative whenever someone is trying to police or whenever they perceive wokeness, that the anti-woke movement is moving so far that it is beginning to embrace racial provocateurs at best and outright racists at worst, and all part of owning the libs, all part of taking on the left and trying to show that the left can t set the agenda in any way, shape, or form, and you end up embracing or allying yourself with movements and mind-sets that are remarkably