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lee tells me like his brothers, he s never dated anyone. and if he follows through and commits to a vow of celibacy, he never will. there are guys in seminary now who have experienced intimacy with a woman. you haven t. but you re kind of okay right now with the fact that it could never happen? yep. right now i m okay with it. while lee may never experience physical intimacy, father matthias has. and yet now feels blessed by its absence. celibacy is a gift. it s not something that someone can just voluntarily do on their own. it s got to be given from god. and while he could have chosen a wife, he s happier celebrating marriage as a priest. i ve actually found as a priest more fulfillment and more joy than i ever thought possible. ....
Then i think there s a bright red line in the sand and he crossed it. where did you get that phrase? i don t know. i ll disregard it next week. were you ready. pope francis appears to be willing to accept some historic changes the way the catholic church is run. the vow of celibacy is on the table. have no problem with that. gate married believe in god. nbc s chris jansing has the story. reporter: in st. peter s square a huge audience. crowds have quadrupled. the suggestion from his new number two that the idea of married priests is open to discussion. it s already got people talking. this pope is saying hey we ....
Married. there s nothing biblical about priests not getting married. true. if they don t expand that horizon, if they don t allow priests to get married there will be no more priests in 20 years. if there are there will be a lot more scandals. true. what? i m not sure. the issue of the vow of celibacy is a serious one and you can t turn it around because it doesn t work. what do you mean it doesn t work? it doesn t work? can we say it doesn t work? yeah. don t look at me. i think the i think the catholic church s track record on such matters speaks for itself. i think when you ask first of ....
Priesthood and they should continue to as long as they can follow their vow of celibacy. a lot of archbishop ones have said that if you are gay, if you have a homosexual orientation, can you not be admitted to the seminary pip know it has kept a lot of money who are kay who wanted to live celibately out of the seminary. the pope said today that gays will not be ordained. father martin? he said he wanted to see a deeper theology of women in the church and also having women ....
i m with you on all that. let me ask has to be shared, has to be responsible. let me challenge you on one thing. why would anybody, i mean, i am maybe an old boy s club guy, myself, in some ways. some ways. although that s pretty much the past. my question to you is, why would anybody want to hang out what guy do you know would want to hang out with another guy, old-school reference there, who has sex with altar boys? why would you want to have the same be sitting at the same meal table with him, be in the same rectory with him? you wouldn t want anything to do with that person. why do you say they protect each other knowing this horror is going on, this disgusting behavior? what s this old boy s club reference got to do with it? i think that as you said, nearly everyone in the priesthood has some sort of skeleton in their closet. richard sipe spent his entire history, his entire life studying celibacy among priests in the catholic church. he s a former priest, himself. ....