beleaguered as va 6789 it employs 36,000 people. it s been playground by charges of mismanagement for years, report after report has cited a long list of failures. so as a man with no experience in management qualified to fix what s been broken for decades. this is the director of government relations for vote vets.org. you know the stats, but hold on a second. the president s talk about david shulkin. let s listen zpotsds come back. they couldn t do anything about it. they were protected. you could do anything. they had saidists that treated our vets horrible, worse than a movie. they had people that wouldn t work. you couldn t do anything. i had passed the va
whereas there is a lot of accountability at the va? it s a different type of injury they re treating. ptsd, you see a lot of that in hospitals around the country and it s not that the private hospitals could not get up to speed eventually, no one is making that argument. it s what happens in the interim and what happens with oversight. will fisher, thank you very much for being here. iraq war veteran and purple heart recipient with vote vets.org. a live look at sacramento, california, where mourners are gathering for the funeral of stephon clark who was shot and killed by police last week. next, why hasn t the president even mentioned clark s name, and is this as the white house called it, a local matter? their hearts may not be hardened by bitterness. more than a thousand workers are starting their day
executive ban on refugees. part of the problem was what he had said about giviining prefere to people from christian nations. then, steve, now you ve got a veterans group launching a new ad demanding that paul ryan and mitch mcconnell help in the investigation. it s vote vets.org that has put out this ad. how potentially influential do you believe that could be? i think the more people that begin to call for this investigation, whether or not it s on the republican side or the democratic you know, depending on how that all breaks down, the more people that begin to call for this and begin to organize in various and sundry groups that say, look, we really do need to look at this, i think the pressure is obviously going to continue to build as to get to the bottom of this. it s going to be very difficult. it s going to be very complicat complicated.
joining me now is john saltz, the chairman and co-founder of vote vets.org. he served two tours of duty in iraq. thank you for being here tonight. thank you, reverend. john, does jeb bush tonight have to directly confront this country s decision to invade iraq in the first mace? place. i hope he does. the whole speech makes me angry. he fumbled the football on the whole iraq question. you look who is financing the super pac, the same neo conservatives who started this war. he s fumbled the football so much when he s asked questions, this is a way for him to put out his vision and narrative and seize back control of where he stands in the polls. he can t answer the question on his own, so they can lay out his argument on iraq which is to try to put blame on secretary clinton and president obama, which makes me nauseous, to be honest. you know, we ve learned from excerpts of his speech that jeb bush is expected to talk about
thanks so much. for more lacy healey a fellow at the simpson center. and paul eaten, senior adviser at vote vets.org. general eaten you first. your assessment of this it was either this or war. do you really believe that. absolutely, ed. and thank you very much for the invitation here and good to see you lacy. it is that. we either achieve a diplomatic outcome here or we re going to have to pursue war. we will not stop the iranians with a warfare option short of occupation of the country. there is no easy military solution. so we either have a very difficult military solution or solve it with our great diplomatic team and the negotiators that we have every right to be proud of. lacy where does it go from here? how significant are the details