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ironically, from the chase department in charge of mitigated risk. my colleague, christine romans watching this hearing from her post in new york. the department that s supposed to mitigate risks made these risky trades and now he is having to answer questions. it s obvious why congress wants to know why these stupid trades were made. yeah. he says, you know what? i m not going to defend it, because it violates common sense. it shouldn t have happened. what was, maybe should have been a legitimate, bona fide macroeconomic hedge, morphed into something else, he says, and he did not defend it. talk about, you say a grilling. a civil discussion. in part because he is so contrite here. the conversation just now turning into something more about what do you think about dodd-frank and the volcker rule and new regulations he has been vocal against. but as far as that trade, he says, no, you re right. it shouldn t have happen and we re sorry for that. in particular, let me tell you

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