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Keep crying all day. Well get through this. A week from black friday, a double dose of retail reality today with two big retail ceos. Apparel companying ipo today, up better than 40 . The ceo jill granoff is here with us. They left money on the table. I tell you. And Brendan Hoffman will be with us, operating 260 department stores. Looking forward to both of these interviews. When is it time to cry uncle . Bill ackman is down 500 million on his herbalife short position. Hes not down yet. Well ask a top investor when you need to say enough is enough and admit you were wrong. In the markets, lets take a look at wherer with we stand. The Dow Jones Industrial average up 0. 25 . We have been trending higher. Sitting around the highs of the day. Nasdaq composite showing gains. Technology doing well with the nasdaq up 20 points. At 3990. The s p 500 looks like this. Gain on the session of 7. 5 on the standard poors. Joining us on closing bell exchange, ann, michael yoshikami, rich peterson, a

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