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But we have done it now and we have as a country for the most part decided that it s immoral. you talked about senator john mccain having personal experience, tortured in a vietnamese war camp in vietnam. take a listen to a military comment tater, retired air force general mcinerney and talking about john mccain and how torture works. fact is, john mccain, it worked on john and call him song bird john. nobody calls him songbird john except for crazy people and jerks. i m using my language carefully here. the host of the show has apologized for not challenging the general. jeffrey toobin, your response. of course that s a sickening and disgusting comment. but, you know, we don t need democracy dick cheney to talk about torture. how about the president of the united states? donald trump said we ll do worse than waterboarding. ....