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MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber June 4, 2024 22:33:00

Punch line that a month later it wasn t even a big deal that trump got arrested. how does that work in law and life? is that good or bad? and to finish the allegory, should america be waiting for the more potentially severe sativa strain of a georgia browny? i think we are perhaps in the media responsible for the expected high that many people wanted when they took the pot browny of the bag indictment, but law isn t like that. yes, there was going to be an initial flurry of activity. but we don t know all the evidence against trump that bragg and the manhattan d.a. s office has amassed. we re not going to hear about it until this case goes to trial. so it s really early days. i think the thing people don t get about the law despite dick wolf procedurals is it s a pretty painstaking process. it s a process. we re watching this process play ....

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MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber June 4, 2024 22:18:00

Physically present or whether you were physically fighting the officers to get in that day. both of you have dealt with some pretty tough characters as prosecutors, and you know it better than i do, but when you two up the chain of the mob, the really powerful folks aren t always mobbed. you go up the chain of command in the government, you certainly if you have command or control in this or any country, you don t see the head of state armed david, i know you want to jump in, but i m curious as we put up on the screen joyce s point here, you have obstruction of the official proceeding obstruction of law enforcement, destruction of property. these were some of the charges in this case against some of the people on site. jack smith s brief is specifically to deal with any possible planning crimes by individuals who were not on site, meaning he either finds those crimes and charges them or perhaps in fairness he doesn t have the evidence and does not. but either way we know he s exclusive ....

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MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber June 4, 2024 22:17:00

To convict for a conspiracy. seditious conspiracy isn t the only charge that s available here, and in the proud boys case they used a second type of conspiracy, a conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. and there s a lot of evidence that shows trump in the middle of people like john eastman and rudy giuliani who were trying desperately to come up with a plan to interfere with the certification of the electoral college vote. and the proud boys case may give folks at doj and in the special counsel s office a little bit of confidence, confidence that juries are willing to convict people who weren t physically in the mix on january 6th and confidence that you can find an implied conspiracy from the way people act in connection with one another. it s very likely that today adds a little bit of confidence to the stride of people in the special counsel s office. it s really interesting you draw that point, joyce, because you said physically, and that goes to whether you re ....

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MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber June 4, 2024 22:23:00

On that tape that well historically, quote, it s true with stars that they let you do it. when pressed by a lawyer trump responds this is new in the trial so you re hearing this as news, quote, if you look over the last million years i guess it s largely true, unfortunately but not fortunately. from the lawyer, do you consider yourself a star? someone who practiced this maifr, this alleged assault, trump said, quote, i think you can say that, yeah. not exactly a denial. also in new york today, there s a separate hearing in the case where donald trump is awaiting his own criminal trial. trump s lawyers are making what is a long shot request to see if they could somehow move the case. they suggest a new york bias against trump. and they have settled here on basically trying to narrow in when this criminal trial of donald trump will occur, february or march of next year. ....

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MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber June 4, 2024 22:01:00

Letting substance abuse your homes during these extraordinary times. we are grateful. the beat with ari melber starts right now. hi, ari. hi, nicolle. thanks so much. welcome to the beat. i m ari melber. today, may 4th, marks one legal conclusion in a quest for justice began on january 26th, 2021. today federal prosecutors won their big case against a key militia that first breaches the capitol, the proud boys, who donald trump specifically shouted out. now convict of sedition, the most series possible charge for an insurrection, and a rare charge in american life and law. it is proven against these four sedition conspiracy including top gun. you may remember the nation was watching in realtime, and from casual observers to security ....

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