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met him, we got put together at a dinner with a whole bunch of people, and by the end of that dinner, he and by the end of that dinner, he and i were planning an expedition together with our families to climb kilimanjaro. he saw that we had the same interest, to do something quite extraordinary, and he immediately invited me along to what was already a very well prepared expedition hamish. i didn t happen but it was by the by. so he understood the risks, he s done some remarkable things in his life, you know, he used his position in ways that hopefully people will focus on now, and not think of him as somebody who sjust doing. diving down and not think of him as somebody who s just doing. diving down to a rackjust for a thrill, you know, it means something to him. he lives and enjoys his life this way, he pushes boundaries, and that s part of life. and we are richer for people like hamish. i don t know the other people, but ph, no longer professionally. ph is paul he ....

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