are some elements of this which are which may have just been inadvertent or kind of like incompetence but it may also have been instances where it might have been more malicious. olivia, this is a problem. these are these are presidential level records. we know that the secret service was communicating with trump about whether or not he was going to go to the capitol. they have confirmed that. that s part of the testimony we ve seen on january 6th, and that there was an upset on trump s part he wasn t going to go to the capitol to do this unplanned, now we know very much planned march to the capitol with now we know the armed insurrectionists. can you take us behind the scenes a little bit about these relationships because it does seem like arnado or engel had a maga-like relationship to trump. it s certainly unusual to see a secret service person serving in such a political role in the white house, and i will tell you
conversations with rudy giuliani that they wanted violence, violence very much played into the plan for january 6. there were other things that were taking place. the violence was an entre gal part of the plan for the day. we know what she said. she was told by tony arnado who was deputy chief of staff of operations. do you want to play the sound? what was interesting, the now there s reporting that not only the secret service will provide testimony but that mr. arnado is going to be saying he didn t in fact say specifically the those things to cassidy hutchinson. what do you make of this? i don t want to overrotate. we ll have the answers soon. agents will give their side of the story. testimony today was shocking and
trump presidency and he was a political figure who worked underneath mark meadows and over saw all of the president s movements, the operations of the west wing, it was tony arnado basically in charge of telling the secret service detail what it is trump wanted done, where he wanted to go, what the schedule would look like and what the movements might be. he was intergril in the planning. like you say, he s a very political figure and a real fierce trump loyalists and, you know, it s important to keep that in mind when you consider what we know happened over at the capitol on january 6th, which was that vice president pence, his secret service detail all part of the same agency of course led by tony arnado wanted to take him away from the capitol grounds, wanted to put him into his motorcade vehicle
can you describe for us mr. arnado s responsibilities as the deputy chief of staff? the deputy chief of staph position is arguably one of the most important positions that someone can hold. they are in charge of all security protocol for the campus, the first family, and anything that requires security for any individual that has presidential protection. so the chief of staff, the national security advisor, to t would oversee all of that and he was the conduit between the white house and the secret service. you described a brief meeting about the potential for violence. the meeting was on january 4th, they were talking about the potential for violence on january 6th. let s listen to a clip of that