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MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews June 27, 2012

well, according to a new report from fortune magazine, not the nation or the new york times, fortune, it didn t happen. the u.s. government never used a tactic of letting the guns reach the bad guys in mexico. it just didn t happen. which raises the bigger question. if it didn t happen why is eric holder and the obama administration failed to kill the story? didn t they learn from the charges against john kerry if you don t knock down a story, it knocks you down. our guests tonight are matt miller former spokesman for the department of justice and msnbc political analyst david corn. help me out here. how did i and so many of our viewers and so many people in the country believe for the last 18 months that the united states government was so risk-prone that they sent guns allowed guns to fall into the hands of the bad guys in mexico, cartel people, and as a tactic that somehow tracked them down. according to fortune, having interviewed a bunch of agents aç atf, ....

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MSNBC Hardball With Chris Matthews June 27, 2012

i don t like that answer. okay? i can tell. 18 months of messing around. fortune magazine blockbuster says darrell issa s investigation is built on lies. it reads there s a fundamental miskongs at the heart of the fast and furious scandal. nobody disputes that suspected straw purchases under surveillance by the atf bought guns and eventually fell into criminal hands. issa and others charge that the atf intentionally allowed guns to walk, to walk, operational tactic. five law enforcement agents directly involved in the fast and furious effort, tell fortune the atf had no such tactic. they insist they never purposely allowed guns to be illegally trafficked. the opposite. they say they seized weapons wherever they could and were ham strung by weak laws which stymied them at every turn. now this isç part of the malary about this. the second amendment fanatics out there say you can t stop trafficking and even semiautomatic weapons going to drug dealers. you can t ....

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MSNBC Hardball With Chris Matthews June 27, 2012

around. fortune magazine blockbuster says darrell issa s investigation is built on lies. it reads there s a fundamental misconption at the heart of the fast and furious scandal. nobody disputes that suspected straw purchases under surveillance by the atf bought guns and eventually fell into criminal hands. issa and others charge that the atf intentionally allowed guns walk, to walk, operational tactic. five law enforcement agents directly involved in the fast and furious effort, tell fortune the atf had no such tactic and insist they never purposefully allowed guns to be illegally trafficked. the opposite. they say they seized weapons wherever they could and were ham strung by weak laws which stymied them at every turn. part of the malarky about this. second amendment fanatics out there say you can t stop trafficking and even semiautomatic weapons going drug dealers. you can t do it. let me get your take on this. how did we believe for 18 months the atf was stupid ....

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