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Physical barriers don t help? the opportunity i think for democrats is really to look responsible, to look like we want to open the government, we want to sit down and talk, we want to figure out how to make a deal with the president. i think he is going to be in a lot of trouble is he double back if he continues to look like he is the obstructionist and can be reasoned with. harris: let s get to rich edson outside the white house. rich question asked good afternoon, harris. after this cabinet meeting at 3:00 this afternoon, they will meet with the top democrats and republicans in the house and the senate and the situation room. the president says he wants billions of dollars to fund a wall at the southern border. democrats say they reject that idea as immoral and inefficient. the president has been tweeting on the subject. he says mexico is paying through the wall through the new usmca trade deal. much of the wall has already been renovated or billed. we have done a lot of work ....
Graham put it, a metaphor, which includes a lot of different things and it s where we need to be. so do you think there is a compromise between where the democrats stand now which means to money for a border wall, and the president saying without that we can t have any deal whatsoever. i would urge democrats and republicans and this white house and this could come down simply to a matter of semantics to reach a compromise, to reopen the government, to reopen the department of homeland security, put these 800,000 people back to work so they get paid, and reach a compromise that includes additional surveillance, additional fence as the republican senate bill provides, additional lighting, perhaps some additional personnel, more immigration judges, by the way, and let s not get too hung up on the concept of an actual wall. there might be places along the southern border where the wall that exists could be fortified. i wouldn t rule that out. but i think there are ways to reach com ....
Fact the shutdown has been happening during the holiday season and it hasn t been as apparent to most people as it will be? well, they will, because this isn t nancy me lohpelosi s firs rodeo. she s going to keep passing this legislation. she s going to keep passing the bill. she s going to keep bringing tup, it will come to a vote and the senate will keep saying no. daca. is it back on the table at some point? to the point we were making earlier, it s hard to say what might be on the table. it certainly has been the case that democrats have shown some willingness in the past to make a deal on this. i think nancy pelosi s strategy is very smart, taking this bill the senate has passed on mitch mcconnell s leadership a month ago and reintroducing that. the only thing that s changed in the senate is there are six seats flipped, two of them for republicans. it will be hard to knock him over that. he could make some sort of deal, ....
Unanimously in the republican-controlled senate. they re willing to control some sort of the wall for a daca deal that lindsey graham has been pushing. there is a plan that mike pence had been floating with, i think, 2-something-billion dollars for border security, but then trump sort of took that off the table. so democrats don t really have a negotiating partner. they have a president throwing a tantrum because he wants the approval of rush limbaugh and ann coulter and other pundits on the far right and doesn t really feel any urgency about getting the government working, because as he said, even though i don t think it s necessarily true, he thinks the people that aren t being paid are democrats, so i think he doesn t feel this sense of crisis over what s happening. i think what he cares about this ....
$5 billion is a fraction of the government and less than 1% of the entire budget. we talk about who is getting furloughed and who has to work and who is getting paid. we re talking about border patrol agents who are, as we speak, on the border trying to deal with the spike that has occurred over the last couple months. we re talking about tsa workers who protect us on aircraft, and we re talking about coast guard. we re talking about people who protect the american people who wear uniforms who are not getting paid right now. and i think all americans should be very, very upset about that and say to those in washington who are failing at the most basic responsibility you have in government right now. the president again said mexico was going to pay for this wall. his surrogates and he himself have felt the need to answer for that. today the president tweeted mexico is paying for the wall through the new usmca trade deal. much of the wall has already been fully renovated or built. ....