others into maybe hey, look, i don t want to face this in the next election, is that partly what we are going to see? if you talk to house democratic leadership what they ll tell you number churn and burn and there s nothing to see here but you mentioned that that number is at 17 right now and you ve got to think that a lot of these incumbent democrats over the holidays as they re away from washington, d.c. and spending time with their families, they are thinking about the future and they are wondering to themselves, am i ready for another uphill reelection slog, not like the ones that i may have seen in the last two or four or six years but instead at a moment when things have really changed, when party orthodoxy is moving further and further to the left. i think that some of these incumbent democrats are wondering, do i have it in me to run again in a year that historically is probably not going the favor my party. ed: so you talk about that, the policies moving a little bit