members of the oath keepers allegedly serving as his security detail. as we now know, multiple members of that organization have been charged with or pled guilty to crimes associated with january 6th. mr. stone has invoked his fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination against this committee. general michael flynn has also taken the fifth before this committee. mr. stone previously had been convicted of other federal crimes unrelated to january 6th. general flynn had pleaded guilty to a felony charge also pre-dating and unrelated to january 6th. president trump pardoned general flynn weeks after the presidential leaks and in july of 2020, commuted the sentence roger stone was to serve. the night before january 6th president trump instructed his chief of staff, mark meadows, to contact both roger stone and
bold faced names with the deeper pockets. those folks continue to evade this committee thus far. garrett haik, pete williams. thanks to both of you breaking in with that breaking news developing in the last couple minutes. are you watching it on msnbc reports. believe it or not, more breaking news, unrelated to january 6th. righted very much to the nation s economy with new votes just annoyanced, as leader shrngs we work a complicated debt default. we got new reporting on that, wheeling see if one senate republican is on board with it. senator mike braun joining us live. h it senator mike braun joining us live deon, hand it over. now how does that make you feel? like a part of me is missing. gabrielle? this old spice fiji hand and body lotion has me smoother than ever. that s what it does.
but january 6th, i don t think was something that you can ignore or pretend that it was a tourist event that got out of hand. this was a violent, mob, trump supporters, you can argue it was egged on by the president or not, but there has never been an attack on our democracy like this. so i don t think it s something that you can just ignore, but, yeah, i agree, there are other ways to investigate. howie: the cable news bank eted the story because they need a trump narrative to get the numbers up? jason: yes. i think the media desperately misses donald trump. he drives ratings and he drives clicks and they need donald trump in order to get ratings up for some of the stations. howie: donald trump, mara, puts out releases that are sent to reporters and ripped 35 house defects or as weak. president biden is doing all kinds of things. he helped prod netanyahu and
the question is whether it should be an investigation into january 6th. january 6th is an event onto itself. there are other ways to investigate january 6th other than a bipartisan commission which i agree with you is not going to happen because mitch mcconnell doesn t want it to happen. benghazi was not a bipartisan commission and that went on for 11 months, so there are ways that congress who is normal or standing committees and something they have to fall back on howie: go ahead. jason: i was going to say benghazi started i was the one that signed the letter of preservation to secretary clinton and they didn t preserve documents and destroyed documents. there were subpoenas issued that weren t fulfilled and communication equipment that was destroyed and we went after the department of defies to ask for after-action reports and they
have to get to the heart of it. the media won t pay any attention to that but she s ultimately in charge of capitol hill. she s the one who is part of the commission that oversees the capitol hill police. there s a lot of questions about the use of the national guard, the non-use of national guard and there s questions about intelligence failures. all of that goes to the leader of the house of representatives and the leader of the senate but the questions has to be asked of nancy pelosi as well. how huh my own view of this thing, absolutely dead in the senate once mitch mcconnell said he was going to keep an open eye. you need 60 votes. i don t think it s going anywhere. what about the point that jason made earlier, is it a deflection or legitimate argument, we have to look at urban violence and liberal roots. i m not minimizing the importance of that but kind of unrelated to january 6th.