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Ordinary fire democrarms, low-t using nails and martyrs as a delivery system. it took some leave of sophisticate to at least build the suicide bombs that the bombers wore. those things have signatures. also, brian, we know there s been, quotes/unquote chatter. there was chatter right before the attack of ice sin with the airliner. i think we have to do that, but you re absolutely correct. let s remember, though, that europe is more gun control centric that we are. the fact we had ak-47s floating around that environment tells me they have a sophisticated network supporting this. and i go back to charlie hebdo. we must go about penetrating a network with old-fashioned intelligence. i have a feeling the french did not go far enough to identifying the whole network to defeat the ....