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how she witnessed, personally, these forced deportations working. she didn t mention children specifically, but we are asking her, did you see anyone who was forced to go to donetsk or russia? she explained one of the reasons, this was the first time i heard this from a civilian inside mary opal, ali, she explained that one of the ways they were doing this was the buses from zaporizhzhia and burton s coming in intended to bring ukrainians further west to zap alicia, they were actually being commandeered, stolen by russians inside mariupol. russian troops. they were switching the signs and they were forcing people to get on these buses that were only heading to donetsk. the messaging at the bus stop, all of these people were lining up hoping to evacuate from mariupol to is a preached, they were switching the science and announcing that the only option was to go to russia. she said she actually got on one of these, buses escaped and got a private driver and got to
when it comes to maternity care, you can t delay that. when it comes to dialysis, people need their medical treatments. and yet they are seeing medical facilities and other things being attacked. the question is a difficult one. it is hard to say, what is damage? it shouldn t be happening no matter what. it is a legal question at the, and if they were truly targeted. those who are investigating that, or the media investigating that. whether they would be targeted or not. they should be, targeted they should be safe, they should be able to access those structures without fear of bombs. how do you work that logistically? are you in contact with the russians and the ukrainians, at any given point, trying to bring help in? yes. as you said, we have decades of experience working in conflict zones. in some ways, this conflict is no different from any other. as a mutual in pop
they are taking that propaganda very seriously. say, that if the russians succeed in ukraine, they might be. next dmytro gurin, thank you for joining. us dmytro gurin is our member of the ukrainian parliament, he represents a district in the northwest of kyiv. coming up, next break russian propaganda, as we are just talking. about the extreme difficulty of jigsaw when members of your own family drink putin s potion. hard to my conversation with for young ukrainians in lviv is up next on velshi. next on velshi. , and we started noticing some allergy symptoms. we heard about the farmer s dog and it was a complete transformation. his allergies were going away and he just had amazing energy. it s a no-brainer that remi should have the best nutritious and delicious food possible. i m investing in my dog s health and happiness. get started at longlivedogs.com hey lily, i need a new wireless plan for my business, but all my employees need something different. oh, we can help with that. oka
be finally getting off the sidelines for a reluctant administration, a reluctant national security council. what it would mean is that we actually start taking a longer view of the fact that this will be a protracted war and start looking to train ukraine on more advanced weaponry, western weaponry. not just weaponry. in a lot of, ways it means that we re pushing equipment further to the border in poland, the border in hungary, if they allow. it to the border and slovakia in romania. ukrainians couldn t start to dry out equipment as they need. it they don t make a request and that it has to sit in some sort of bureaucratic process, it doesn t have to be then transported, which takes some time. it s already there for them to draw on. that is the part that we need to start working, on the implementation. that is right now ukrainians are doing a great job receiving equipment from all these donor countries that are coming in individually. we need a coordinator coming in
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