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BBCNEWS HARDtalk July 6, 2024

foreign policy principle, putting business first, not military power, was suddenly, it looked like weakness. chancellor olof shulz promised dramatic change. my guest is the state secretary for cooperation niels annen. so has germany got a new strategic vision? niels annen, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. pleasure. it is great to be here. let s start with the war in ukraine. i think there is no doubt that putin s invasion of ukraine shocked germany. would it be fair to say it has also destabilised germany? no, i don tthink destabilised germany? no, i don t think so destabilised germany? no, i don t think so but destabilised germany? no, i don t think so but it - destabilised germany? no, ll don t think so but it certainly shocked germany because a lot of our economic model was based on the assumption that we would continue using cheap russian natural gas and it was also based in a kind of historic, i want to say historic experience that although russia was a competi ....

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BBCNEWS HARDtalk July 6, 2024

chancellor olaf scholz promised dramatic change. my guest is the state secretary for economic cooperation niels annen. so has germany got a new strategic vision? niels annen, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. pleasure. it is great to be here. let s start with the war in ukraine. i think there is no doubt that putin s invasion of ukraine shocked germany. would it be fair to say it has also destabilised germany? no, i don t think so but it certainly shocked germany because a lot of our economic model was based on the assumption that we would continue using cheap russian natural gas and it was also based in a kind of historic, i want to say historic experience that although russia was a competitor and an enemy in the cold war, it was always also in economic terms quite a reliable partner. i think that was somehow, you know, is seen as a constant policy, and we did not really realise that it is not the soviet union anymore, it is a brutal dictator and an unpredictable dictato ....

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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 03:47:00

Chancellor scholz is working so closely with president biden. that is a real difference between berlin and paris, and that surely means the european union is hamstrung when it comes to projecting a coherent, unified stand on the world stage? i am maybe a little more optimistic than you, because as i mentioned, we are very, i mean, the european union is a very unique organisation, with independent countries, with their own policy tradition. but let us look at the substance, and i am much more optimistic also when it comes to the german french cooperation on that. and then let s get to germany and the united states. do you think there is danger that the united states is exploiting countries like germany right now? if one looks at their inflation reduction act, for example, and the way in which they are pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into green policies in the united states, ....

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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 03:47:00

Autonomy around the corner, i think that as that is a delusion and may be one of the reasons chancellor olaf scholz is working so closely with president biden.- is working so closely with president biden. that is a real difference president biden. that is a real difference between president biden. that is a real difference between merlin - president biden. that is a realj difference between merlin and paris, naturally means the european union is hamstrung when it comes to projecting a coherent, unified stand on the world stage? i coherent, unified stand on the world stage? world stage? i am maybe a little more world stage? i am maybe a little more optimistic - world stage? i am maybe a little more optimistic than | little more optimistic than you, because as i mentioned, we are very, i mean, the european union is a very unique organisation, with independent countries, with their own policy tradition but let us look at the substance, and i am much more optimistic when it comes ....

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