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The intelligence is, but as you ve heard from a lot of the experts on both sides the aisle in congress, there s a real threat there. so i m not questioning what he s doing. i think what bill is saying is true, is our attempt to placate parts of the world, reset to whether it s russia or somewhere else, clearly are not working. the perception of weakness in administration is encouraging this kind of behavior. chris: juan, what do you think about that, the idea that the obama administration is in retreat, now we re on the run, not al-qaeda? well, first of all, i think it s a miscast interpretation of events. clearly the al-qaeda that attacked us on 9/11 really has been denuded. i mean that line of command and control and training centers that they had in pakistan, afghanistan, we as an american people have gone and have made a tremendous price to dismantle that operation. what we re dealing now with is this kind of loosely organized ....
Best way to spend congress time when you re about to go in a recess for five full weeks? well, first of all, chris, government doesn t create jobs. the private sector does. what we have going on today is a real erosion of the confidence on behalf of the american public in terms of their trust in government, frankly the faith in the economy. the kinds of bills we bought to the floor this week, one said, you know what, stop the bureaucrats from passing massive regulations impeding ability for our businesses to grow. let s think about the people out there that actually are out of work because they don t have the proper skills and training. stop burdening our economy. that s what the purpose of these bills were this week, chris. the problem is, we don t get a lot of bipartisan support. we passed a bill that said bureaucrats shouldn t be allowed to give excessive bonuses right now. people ought to know that their ....
Don t deal with job creation. even the republican governors are disappointed in the fact that the republican governors wanted spending on infrastructure. chris: senator demint, are you guys dysfunctional? this is debated whether we need to have. whether about nsa or obamacare, do we have courage of our convictions. is in a law that is going to hurt the country? chris: the republicans they pulled the spending bill because a lot of republicans weren t willing to go along with the sequester. although with the automatic spending cuts? it s going to be hard for a lot in congress to give up the spending. we re going bankrupt our country. what do say when they say it s not about accomplishments, it s about repeal. it s a healthy debate for republicans. chris: hold that thought. it s no about the fact that we ran out of time. [ laughter ] ....
There are growing demands in congress to impose new limits on the government surveillance of americans. joining us now to discuss all this in new york general michael hayden, former head of the nsa and the cia. and here in washington, republican congressman justin amash of michigan who led an effort to restrict the nsa s data collection. general, based on your long experience, what s going on here with the u.s. closing almost two dozen embassies and consulates across the middle east and also this extraordinary global travel alert for all of august? what does it say about our standing now in the middle east? criticizes, as you know, i m out of government, so i m not reading the cables, but i can only imagine why would it have taken in government in terms of the stack of evidence that would have been required for our government to take the kinds of action that you and james just described. so this does look quite serious. the only thing we re missing is ....
Lightest touch possible, who in america should be targeted for increased interest from the fbi or from our intelligence services. look, this is metadata. business records. the court has held it has no expectation of privacy. and therefore what the agencies have done is to go down this path frankly informing members of congress. i read the letters that were released this week in 2009 and 2011 that specifically invited members of congress to come read what the government was doing and the phrase in the letter was bulk metadata collection. let me bring in congressman amash. you just heard the, you know, say that americans privacy is not being violated, and that your amendment that you almost passed, only lost by a few votes, would make it harder for them to get the information they need about terrorism. we don t have any evidence ....