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This journalist was caught red handed, the situation is obvious. cnn contributor. jill dougherty is an adjunct professor at georgetown university. she is also a cnn former moscow bureau chief. he joins me now from washington. always good to see my friend. it s interesting, so the russian was arrested and held in brazil after us claims of spying. do you feel like evan gustav? it s being taken could be a trade situation or could have been multiple things. i think it really is multiple. i ve talked with a number of us former diplomats and they re giving the idea that yes, it could be a potential for a trade. there actually are two other russians who are being held in slovenia. that s another possibility. but i think also there s probably an attempt to, um let s say, intimidate the foreign press. make sure that they do not go ....

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