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Its briefing. we already almost were fully briefed. argument is next monday, you know, it s going to move so fast, and in some ways i think the supreme court thought, let s see what they have to say. it also gives them an out. if they think the circuit rules correctly, they did this in trump v. thompson, the case about whether the house select committee could get the presidential records that the former president claimed executive privilege for. the d.c. circuit ruled that no, president trump, former president trump, you can claim executive privilege but we weigh that against various tests, and here it doesn t prevail. and the supreme court denied cert in that case. they did not take that case up. i think there s a chance it could stay out of the supreme court. if it goes to the supreme court, i think jack smith by far has the better of the arguments and he s supported by very substantial former republican administration officials going back five administrations, as well as other conse ....
Will all play out. given that the case law is so thin here, to what extent do you think the justices are relying and watching what the appeals courts do? it s one appeals court here. the d.c. circuit. most cases don t get to the supreme court until an issue is percolated among multiple sur kits, but this is not that kind of a case. i actually think there s a not insubstantial chance if the d.c. circuit rules and makes a thorough ruling and has using the strictest tests possible, that the supreme court might deny to take this case. i realize it s important. it s an issue of first i want ill presentation. it s never been decided before. but that also happened back in trump v. thompson. this was the case. tim know it is well. this is where the house select committee sought presidential records. donald trump came in and sued bennie thompson saying as a former president, i have the right to assert executive ....
Agents, including one of them, who was carrying the nuclear football with him, were chased out by these neo-fascists, and they ran down to a still undisclosed mysterious place in the capitol, he uttered what i think are the six most chilling words of this entire thing i ve seen so far. he said i m not getting in that car. according to journalist phil rucker and carroll leonnig, one of pinson visors, keith kellogg was suspicious as well. he told trump s deputy chief of staff, quote, leave him where he is at. he s got a job to do. i know you guys too well. you will fly him to alaska if you have a chance. don t do it. now eventually the mob cleared the capitol and pence was able to do his job. he certified biden s victory. even after all that, the former vice president and likely 2024 presidential candidate has been wary of criticizing his former boss too much. members were barricaded ....
This was the moment i thought this was a good one. about a chrissy teigen tweet. earlier, you testified about a 2019 tweet. that was about president trump. i think it was from miss teigen, what was the tweet about? would you like me to get the direct quote. yeah. please excuse my language this is a direct quote but chrissy teigen referred to donald trump as a bleep. [laughter] the white house didn t like chrissy teigen reverting to the president that. where they asked her to take it down. is that right? you, know i actually brought that up earlier. and establish with that same witness that this impact happened i m a little older than mr. frost, i chose not to actually you, know it s so funny you said. that we are going back and forth, i m a let you behind the curtain. here we are going back to far than what club to use. because you had raised earlier, i ve got to do the one where she said ....
Himself, which is the disease that afflicts so many, and so he is going to try to walk, as you say, this tightrope. but look, i also believe that despite his having no spine, that there are some lines that pence will cross, as he demonstrated on january 6th. i think one of them is probably, he s not going to lie to the independent counsel. as your previous guests were saying, there may be delays, the maybe court cases about where they needed to this, but eventually he s gonna have to. and that time i do not think he will lie. as he will tell the truth. and that is not good for donald trump. right, i agree with that. i think he is a little boxed in because he wrote a book about it. you could say, like, i don t remember, it was a long time ago, but when you ve written a book in which she recounted one of the key conversations, ....