what is going on? let s go outfront. good evening. i m erin burnett. outfront tonight, will merrick garland indict donald trump? tonight, a major clue into what investigators are focusing on, that is the fake electors, those fake electors from contested states. bennie thompson, the chairman of the january 6th committee, saying his committee is providing the doj with witness transcripts to put up the fraj la fraudulentelectors. they ve included testimony from the chairwoman of the republican national committee, describing a call that she received from the former president and his attorney, john eastman. he turned the call over to mr. eastman, who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the rnc helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result did you receive a call from andy y biggs of arizona on the morning of january 6th? i did. he asked if i would sign on both to a letter that
this evening, president biden this evening, president biden is at camp david,■ç calling to nbc news reporting that he s discussing the future of his presidential campaign with family members. the president has come under fire for his feeble performance at last week s debate, several newspapers and the editorial boards have called for him to step aside. so far, most democratic lawmakers have kept their criticisms private. meantime, the conservative dominated supreme court is set to wrap up it s a controversial term tomorrow morning with a ruling on of the sessions most consequential s cases, they will determine whether or not former president trump enjoys constitutional immunity.■ç at a time when he s already been convicted of 34 felonies in new york, and is still facing three more criminal cases. republicans have vowed to stand by their candidate regardless of the extent of his legal liabilities, joining me now is democratic congresswoman mckayla williams from georgia.
Okay, so you also have had a chance to go through these. what stands out to you when you go through the 34 that we have thus far? so part of what stands out to me are the kind of key questions that the witnesses refused to answer and claim the fifth. in a jury with a criminal trial you re not supposed to draw any negative inference, but in a civil case you are allowed to do so, and the committee itself could have done so. so for example, roger stone is asked did you have any communications with president trump on january 5th or january 6th, pleads the fifth. the doj official jeffrey clark did you meet and takes the fifth. i think the american public can draw inferences and understand this is a pretty strong indication of some form of guilt. they are trying to hide something and it s probably something incriminating. i know as you said the former president trump famously said
Roger stone was asked did you have any communication of president trump on january 5th, and sixth. the doj official said did you meet with president trump without telling your supervisors? they take the fifth. so i think that the american public can draw inferences, and understand that this is a pretty strong indication of some form of guilt. they are trying to hide something probably incriminating. and as you said, the former president trump famously said that you don t plead the fifth if you are innocent. but to your point, you are not supposed to infer in criminal cases. but it is pretty clear, if jeffrey clark would have said no, he should have said no. i have no meetings that my boss would offer. it is an easy question, except if the answer is yes. okay, so what other ones, let s just say when you look through this, and you look at the fifth amendment, fifth amendment, fifth amendment, fostering in some sense. can the doj overcome that? if these
That says yes. and steve bannon was doing that in that moment. another thing is that nothing ever gets done without trump. trump knows all. people don t say anything without his blessing. i know that. i was his press secretary. so the fact 245that bannon said that makes me believe that trump said that to bannon, they discussed it, and trump was well aware and planning to do what happened. it s just a powerful indictment just from your words there, stephanie. we learned yesterday about two phone calls that steve bannon had with trump on january 5th. he calls him, and he gets off the phone with trump and then says all hell will break loose. so bannon is the one who, according to kostas and woodward, does all of this add up to trump? when the whole point here is, how much planning? they proved this wasn t