the notion that pence should not talk about his conversations with trump. trump would try to appeal on that front again. but he has lost this kind of argument again with mike pence already when it comes to mark meadows when it comes to pets of bologna, the former white house counsel. they have not had success on this even as the trump team insists that the government is plowing through constitution. all norms and insisting there should be no case against the president. the former president in the first place, anderson, i appreciate the update, thanks. joining us now cnn political commentator republican consultant margaret hoover also sir matthews, who served as deputy press secretary in the previous administration, and testified before the january 6th committee. and elliot williams, former deputy assistant attorney general, currently cnn legal analyst are you surprised margaret that he was going to testify? no i m not surprised. look, i think it s not fair to characterize mike pence s
mcdougal says she met donald trump in 2006, she told anderson cooper there was an instant attraction. you can see him looking at you could see it. mcdougall says. the two later had a date at trump s bungalow at the beverly hills hotel. night ended we were intimate. so there s the sex was consensual. it s very clear. trump has denied having an affair with mcdougal. long before she met donald trump. karen macdougal grew up in a small town in michigan. the new yorker says she worked as a preschool teacher before starting her modeling career. mcdougall said she won a local modeling contest , which landed her in california contracts to relocate in l a and do a lot of modeling their first appeared in playboy as miss december 1997. then was named playboy playmate of the year in 1998 macdougal told anderson she and trump were in love donald trump ever say to you that he loved you. all the time.
mcdougall says trump once took her to his apartment at trump tower past a room. and he said, this is melania s room. how did you feel being in his apartment guilty very guilty after meeting trump mcdougall was photographed alongside melania and ivanka trump at a party for the apprentice. she told anderson. she ended her relationship with trump in april, 2007. years later in 2016 mcdougall was at the center of a catch and kill scheme after trying to sell her story about the alleged affair to the national enquirer, mcdougall, says am e, which published the enquirer bought her story only to bury it. trump s longtime friend david pecker, was the ceo of am i the side deal was, we re squashing the story because of personal relationship. with the guy who runs am i his friends with donald trump. correct in 2016
michael cohen recorded himself talking with trump about how to set up the payment to mcdougall . the recording was later made public need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david . i ve just spoken to alan weisberg about how to set the whole thing up with. so what? are we gonna funding? yes in the end am i paid mcdougall $150,000 to silence her. she signed the deal just before the election. randi joins me now what is karen mcdougal said about the trump s recent indictment of anything? well, anderson. she s kept a pretty low profile, as all of this recently has been unfolding. she hasn t issued any formal response to the indictment or to that statement , of fact, with all the details in it, where she is referred to as a woman one, but she did post on her social media today, sort of a tongue in cheek post and here s what she wrote on instagram. i ve been out and
supporters with lies in order for it to give them their marching orders so they can go to the public square and argue on his behalf. we mentioned multiple sources have told cnn s katelyn polantz that aggressive moves taken by the special counsel jack smith, have been deeply concerned those in trump s inner circle specially on the documents investigation. do you think there s good reason for the president to the former president, especially fear the documents case. i do well again . i should say it s there s a reason for any party to fear any time they re being investigated that extends frankly to the new york city to as well. there are some reporting as folks may be familiar with from the washington post earlier this week that involved information or allegations that the former president even after a subpoena had come his way was directing his staff potentially to go in the boxes or hide them and their surveillance images and so on. that is quite troubling because it s possibly evidenc