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to be a centerpiece of the government s case against donald trump. the actual audio recording of the former president talking as if he is showing a highly cost five document on plans against iran, with people not clear to even know it exists, let alone what is in it. in a moment, only on cnn, you will hear what yours will here in one day, the recording was made two summers ago in july 2020, one the former presidents club in bedminster new jersey. we will clearly hear the former president says he is speaking to several people, according to the special counsel indictment they clear a writer working on meadows memoir, the publisher, and to trump staff members. the president was aware he was being recorded. it is the first time it is being played publicly. these are bad sick people. but that was your crew, you know, that against you while it started right millie is talking about, oh they were trying to do that even before trying to overthrow your well, m ....
Talking to someone in trump s orbit about, this because obviously several people in his orbit have heard it themselves, when they found out about it in mid march. we were talking about comparing it to the access hollywood tape, how if you just had a transcript of, that it would not have been as, maybe, you know, controversial and contentious as it was when you could actually hear it. the same with this. the fact that we could read the transcript, but hearing it drives at home so much more. paula, you have reported extensively on this, case what is your reaction to hearing about anderson, it is remarkable how casual this conversation is. the former president knew he was being recorded during this, meeting his own aides when the habit of recording him, anytime he talked to journalists, or people working on, books in the room with him where to people who were working on an autobiography for mark meadows. even though he knows he is being recorded, you hear him casually discussing cla ....
Seem to believe that he may have been part of a conspiracy with the former president to try to do some of the obstruction, some of the things that the former president is formally accused of. just like the charges of the former president we haven t yet seen the indictment against nauta and haven t seen anything from the justice department so we are having to read between the lines. we do know based on some of the questions that witnesses were getting that prosecutors have a suspicion against nauta and apparently they were trying to lean on him to testify against a former president. interestingly he has been alongside the president in the last few days at bedminster. he is there. it s really fascinating. paula, you have obtained a transcript of the taped phone call of a taped call and there is a damning quote that trump talks about here. quote, as president i could have declassified, but now i can t. he s publicly said that there was no he s publicly said something very different. ....
Case. we are told the judge who will oversee it at least initially is federal district judge aileen cannon. she is a trump appointee and a higher court rebuked her for giving the former president unusually beneficial rulings in the past. and this, cnn exclusively has obtained a transcript of a taped conversation where the former president admits he kept a classified pentagon document about attacking iran and that he did not declassify that information while he was president. cnn previously reported the recording was obtained by prosecutors, but we are now learning exactly what trump said in that private meeting, jim. so let s begin with cnn s sara murray and the potential charges the former president may be facing. sara, you ve been digging into what we know at this stage. tell us the details of the charges as we know them. reporter: that s right, jim. a lot has happened in the 24 hours but the top line remains the same. for the first time in history a ....
Try to correct this in some way. instead what we have here, you would have to prove that the person was knowing, that they were willful and they doubled down. so many times as in to buck any notion that they did not know it was actually happening. why that s so important of course is because normally it s so hard to find the intent of a witness let alone a defendant or a target because you have to go into their minds and they are not going to be forthcoming with you about what they want pause they know they ve got this damocles. you have this great recording, the idea of the recording, this notion of what he knew and who told him information. you can t simply say, well, i m assuming someone told him something. we know that this over a year had be a process between the national archives saying specifically we are the lawful custodians of documents, we need to have them returned, there was a subpoena as well you haven t given them. is the taped conversation that cnn and paula and team ....