ongoing threats to our democracy, but the problem is much deeper now than donald trump, it has festered in a major political party and that s troublesome for our country. not long ago, both of you were proud members of that party. carlos, take me to those who know better. we see in that new video staff members, staff members on kevin mccarthy s team, running for their lives. and now the guy who they work for is trying to discredit the whole thing. we heard kevin mccarthy s own words immediately after the you know these people. what are they saying behind closed doors. they re in a bar right now watching this. what are they saying? are they going to work tomorrow, saying okay, we re done. anyone who talks to most republicans in private, they all agree that this was a big lie, they agree with ivanka trump. or anyone who has any doubt, i think tonight, the fact that the president s daughter does not believe him i mean that should
so the point is, history is going to be kind to liz cheney. history is going to be cruel to other republicans. will history, will republicans be kind to liz cheney? we re not about to see republicans stand up and say hey, we just watched the first hearing, trump s a bad guy, we re with liz, however, are you going to see the national gop maybe start to dial back, they have been pushing hard against liz cheney for the last year 1/2. no way, especially with what she said last night. she is the one who called out republicans and trump will be gone and dishonor will stay. she is going for it and i don t think the other republicans will bring her back in the fold. she s out there by herself. she s not out there by herself. she s out there with the constitution. she s out there with the constitution. the constitution has stood a lot longer than the rest of us. neil, watching this footage, how can you say this is anything but domestic terrorism?
if he has any political future, mike pence in that moment, you can criticize him for a lot of other things, he stood strong in the midst of that. i do think, and listen, i m with carlos, i look for any ray of light that there s rationality in the republican party and that it will return to a rational political party that actually believes in true conservative principles and the constitution, and i look for any ray, and i think georgia is a rark the problem is there is a lot more rays of darkness. my mean what happened in, basically, a big lie supporter is the nominee of the republicans in pennsylvania. jd vance is the nominee, a big lie supporter, the nominee for u.s. senate in ohio. so look what is going on in michigan. we have a secretary of state candidate who is a nut, the republicans can t seem to get out of fraud for governor, the attorney general candidate pushed the big lie, donald trump endorsed him, in all of this, so yes, let s look for the rays of light. the problem is that
the committee, unlikely. i don t know if he will testify before the committee, but he has spoken before the american people, he has told the american people that donald trump lied. he is lined up with liz cheney, with adam kinzinger, with mitch mcconneller to a lesser degree, mcconnell has also said, by the way mcconnell has not dismissed this country, mcconnell has said that his work is important and he was looking forward to it. mr. dowd, i looked at video saying hang mike pence with wooden nooses framed hanging, and does d-mike pence say this is wrong, i don t think i ve heard it. i criticize mike pence how much he has acquiesced to donald trump the last five or six years and i think in this instance, he did stand strong, you have to give him credit, he stood strong as the committee laid out, he stood strong under immense pressure from the president of the united states and a number of other republicans that mike pence wants to be friends with,
not people who are hard red or hard blue, take me to your average family in missouri. are they watching? first of all, no, most of them aren t because my state has become very, very trumped. it is very, he is a very popular guy in missouri. and the vast majority of republicans call themselves trump republicans in missouri. so most of them were not watching. and most of them would tell you with a straight face that the election was stolen and donald trump won it. well, then i m glad you spend a whole lot of time here in new york city, claire mccaskill, thank you all very much. coming up jamie ras kin here to share his thoughts on tonight s hearing. his take away on what they accomplish and what is yet to be done. the 11th hour just getting under way on this very important thursday night. way on this veryt thursday night