out there s a new discussion about a variant specific booster. i think there was delta boosters and beta boosters that were trialed even turned out not to be necessary. is it your impression this is how things are going to be going forward? and also, as you think about that, is there a downside to giving regular boosters, i mean, concerns about people creating autoimmunity, for example? so i think it s just too early to say, as tony said a moment ago, about whether or not we re going to need boosters permanently on a regular basis. what is clear right now is we re in the throws of a pandemic, and the virus continues to mutate and evolve and breakthrough some of our defenses, whether it s vaccine induced or previous infection induced, and so in the face of all that force of infection, that much virus circulating, we do believe it s important that we continue to boost populations because we ve seen the damage that can be wrought when you see break
generate more data in the real world, that the vaccines actually hold up quite well. this is more like delta and it s a situation where we already have the tools we need to fight. you know, there s been a lot of discussion about boosters, every time a new variant comes out there s a new discussion about a variant specific booster. i think there was delta boosters and beta boosters that were trialed even turned out not to be necessary. is it your impression this is how things are going to be going forward? and also, as you think about that, is there a downside to giving regular boosters, i mean, concerns about people creating autoimmunity, for example? so i think it s just too early to say, as tony said a moment ago, about whether or not we re going to need boosters permanently on a regular basis. what is clear right now is we re in the throws of a pandemic, and the virus continues to mutate and evolve and breakthrough some of our defenses, whether it s
we ll get some of those questions in a minute. moderna s ceo made headlines when he the financial times existing covid vaccines are likely to be less effective. his comments triggered a drop in financial markets, raised the anxiety of an already worried pluc public, were they premature. joining us so provide some clarity is the president of moderna, dr. steven hogue. the ceo also said all the scientists i ve talked to this is not going to be good. as the person who leads moderna s scientific, what are you seeing that led to such a bleak assessment? some of the word choice may not have been optimal, but i think what stefan was trying to say was consistent with really what you heard tony say a moment ago, and what we feel, which is it seems likely that the omicron variant is going to make a dent in our vaccine efficacy. in fact, in all vaccine efficacy. the things that lead us to believe that are our prior
what you heard tony say a moment ago, and what we feel, which is it seems likely that the omicron variant is going to make a dent in our vaccine efficacy. in fact, in all vaccine efficacy. the things that lead us to believe that are our prior experiences, including with the delta variant this summer, which i think we all saw had an impact on vaccine efficacy and ultimately necessitated, we think, the additional boosters that we re giving this fall in many parts of the world. the omicron variant looks a lot like delta and the variant that came before it, beta, and the combination of mutations that have been brought together there we think are going to increase the possibility of immune escape. now, the one thing we don t know for sure is how big is that dent, how big is that decrease in vaccine efficacy? our hope, at least in moderna, is that we re going to continue to see the highest efficacy overall and continue to see the boosters push that even higher and so the optimist in me would
wides, which essentially meant that the scene s over. anthony: go wide. want to go wide? do you want to go wide? yeah, go wide. toby: he called it. tony just called it. tom: well, food was a brilliant device because interview can just feel awkward or formal. where as if you share a meal with somebody, it opens up so many doors. nick: the food that we ate on the road helen: yeah, sometimes we got to eat incredible things. mo: this is the number one question i get at parties did you eat all the stuff that tony ate? nick: it was never awful. it could be weird. erik: skinned lamb head. jared: were sheep balls really that good? jerry: boar innards. nick: you may throw-up a little bit in your mouth while trying to get it down, but it was never awful. mo: i definitely did not eat all the stuff that tony ate. anthony: ooh, liver sandwich. that s encouraging. i offer something to my producer and he goes literally running. josh: i did not eat all the weird things