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CNN The Situation Room December 3, 2014 22:11:00

The garner family on december 13th, reverend sharpton, and other civil rights groups are coming here to d.c. to say, we ve got to change this system, because it s broken, and if we keep doing things over and over again and expecting different results, that s the definition for insanity. what they also argue is that the police officer, that he actually resisted when the police officers came to him, and they also argue that he had a history, the autopsy showed he had asthma, he was overweight, and all of that contributed to hist the tragic death. wolf, everybody gets a right to watch the video with their own eyes. what scenario can we present with our police officer will be indicted for killing a person of color? it has happened. there have been indictments of police officers. it is so extremely rare. i agree, it is very hard to indict a police officer in the line of duty, as we ve saw in ferguson and now we see in new york city. it s hard for the grand jury, even if it is a mi ....

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CNN The Situation Room December 3, 2014 22:38:00

One chapter has closed with the decision of this grand jury. there are more chapters ahead. the police department will initiate now its own investigation and make its own decisions about the administrative actions it can take. the federal government is clearly engaged and poised to act. just before the meeting began, the leaders here on staten island, i received a phone call from united states attorney general eric holder and from u.s. attorney loretta lynch. they made clear that the investigation initiated by the u.s. attorney would now move forward, that it would be done expeditiously, and it would be done with a clear sense of independence and that it would be a thorough investigation. it was palpable sense of resolve, the federal government will exercise its ....

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CNN The Situation Room December 3, 2014 22:09:00

well, as an attorney doing it 20 years, what we say is what everybody knows. the grand jury will do whatever the prosecutor wants them to do. when you really think about it. if he presents the evidence in such a way to get an indictment, he would get an indictment. if he doesn t want an indictment and he presented it in such a way where he doesn t get an indictment, they re going to do what he does. they can indict a ham sandwich if they want to. and if they don t want to get an indictment, it s not going to happen. this officer does have a history of going after police officers who went beyond the law. is video is there and it s very telling that people are very troubled by it. i mean, people were upset in ferguson and they didn t have a video. we got a video and i think people are going to say, the system is just broke and we have to fix it, because it s not equal. the american justice system is built on trial by jury. and for that reason, we can never bring the police officers ....

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CNN The Situation Room December 3, 2014 23:23:00

That the grand jury couldn t bring back any charge. and it s disappointing, which talks about which talks to the fact that some americans still don t believe that black lives are worth the same as other american lives. either that or marc morial, or there s still a really high bar, if you re going to indict a police officer who is working in the line of duty. you really have to be 100% convinced that that police officer committed a crime. and you know, if that s the standard that s being applied, that s the wrong standard. the only standard for a grand jury to consider is whether there s probable cause to believe that a law has been violated. it s up to a petit jury, a trial on the fulmel merit to determin ....

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CNN The Situation Room December 3, 2014 23:22:00

He s joining us with missouri congressman lacey clay. thanks to both of you joining us. congressman, you heard president obama announcing more funding for body cameras, more training. but this incident in new york, it was all captured on video, 23 members of the grand jury decided not to indict. so what does that say about the value of videotape? well, that s the thing that really just amazed me is that you do have video and audio evidence. and this grand jury couldn t bring themselves to bring any charges on a group of police officers, from the evidence it suggests that they pretty much jumped on this guy, and beat him to death. and so it s displaying to me ....

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