Just don t think the pile-on, the implication is what, because he s using this example that he s not he s tone deaf to racial issues? i just don t think so. i think he s rusty. bakari, i want you to respond. very briefly. yeah, that s not the implication at all. the implication, though, is joe biden wants to hearken on the issues and the times of yesteryear when there are a lot of people who are ready to turn the page. this is just as much generational as anything else. i wish joe biden instead of harkening on strom thurmond and tom eastland not heros from yesterday. transcripts from the hope hicks testimony is out. coming up, what she had to say and notably what she did not.