just don't think the pile-on, the implication is what, because he's using this example that he's not -- he's tone deaf to racial issues? i just don't think so. i think he's rusty. >> bakari, i want you to respond. very briefly. >> yeah, that's not the implication at all. the implication, though, is joe biden wants to hearken on the issues and the times of yesteryear when there are a lot of people who are ready to turn the page. this is just as much generational as anything else. i wish joe biden instead of harkening on strom thurmond and tom eastland not heros from yesterday. >> transcripts from the hope hicks testimony is out. coming up, what she had to say and notably what she did not.
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