social security and medicare, i mean the average cost of an unlawful immigrant is hundreds of thousands of dollars. that s a net cost. they pay some taxes, but what they takeout of the tax system is much, much greater, and the toel total is $6.3 trillion over the next 50-year period. you can t get around these costs. congress is not considering the costs. it s unfair to those who came here lawfully and the bill itself, we believe, after really a thorough analysis is going to make our immigration system worse. martha: you say that you are in favor of immigration reform. so what kind of reform would you like to see, and how would your version not be as costly as you say this one is? well, first of all, you don t need an amnesty in order to implement reforms and get the benefit of reforms. we know our country was built by lawful immigration system, but