expert. does section 702, admiral rogers allow you to collect information on u.s. citizens? as intentionally targeted individuals in scenario. does it allow to you target foreigners to do what s called reverse targeting of u.s. citizens knowing those u.s. citizens are in communications? no, it does not. does it allow to you collect information on foreigners who are on u.s. soil? no. it doesn t. 702 is outside the united states. so you can collect information on an isis terrorist in syria and he comes to the united states and you can no longer collect information on his cell phone or his e-mail address. we re an interrogation organization. we coordinate with the fbi. we don t do internal domestic collection broadly. mr. rosen stein, do foreigners have constitutional rights? when they re in the united states, senator, different rules apply. that s why i think it s important for people to understand that section 702
earlier with senator wyden about the efforts to estimate and declassify the number of persons who might be subject to incidental collection under section 702 when you have a lawful 702 order but someone does communicate with an american citizen, it s my understanding that it would be virtually impossible to doe so in a way that wouldn t further infringe on the rights of american citizens. is that correct? yes, and that s one of the central reasons why i came to the conclusion, but the main reason i came to the conclusion is that just is not conceivably possible. we could go through the procedures, we could shift hundreds of people to go over and breach the rights of 00 reds if not thousands of american citizens to determine of individuals to determine whether or not they are american citizens or not. but we still, having done that, could not get to an accurate number, the number that senator wyden was trying to get us to.
senator wyden for one question on 702. thank you very much, mr. chairman. i appreciate the courtesy. this one, director coats, i d like a yes or no answer on. can the government use fisa acts, section 702, to collect communications it knows are entirely domestic? not to my knowledge. it would be against the law. thank you, mr. chairman. senator warner? again, i want to thank all the witnesses. but i come out of this had hearing with more questions than when i went in. gentlemen, you are both willing to somehow characterize your conversations with the president that you didn t feel pressure. but you wouldn t share the content. in the case of admiral rogers, we will have independent third
the extension of section 702 and introduced legislation to that affect yesterday. tom boss sert, the homeland security adviser to the president writes in the new york times today about our legislation, the trump administration supports this bill without condition. admiral rogers, is that your position? could you repeat it again? i apologize. trump administration supports this bill without condition? yes. on a scale of 1 to 10, how enthusiastic would you be if this bill passed? you can go over 10 to be enthusiastic. i would be ecstatic we would be in a position to generate significant insights for security. director coats? my level is about 100. mr. rosenstein. senator, i m not familiar with the rating system. i do think it s very important. director mccabe. i m at 11. director coats in exchange
right now and we wouldn t have a blockbuster hearing tomorrow we re all anticipating. he would have been another person not answering these questions had the president not decided to fire him. this hearing ostensibly was about whether to reauthorize section 702 of the fisa law which is an important intelligence gathering foreign surveillance international surveillance and an a controversy about that. it s not going to get much attention because of this. mentioned the conversations with rogers and coats, did the president somehow try to interfere, influence, if you want to have an innocent view of it, some sort of public relations campaign to downplay the investigation, if you a nefarious view, did he try to obstruct justice. fbi director testifies tomorrow as you noted, thing director was jim comey s deputy. after conversations with the president that made comey comfortable, he took notes. we know from his associates he shared them with several associates so they would know this is w