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enough seats to form a majority government. now on bbc news: it s hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk, i m stephen sackur. the united states is a secular republic, there is no state religion. but many americans have nonetheless come to see their country as a beacon of muscular christian values. my guest today is franklin graham, a christian evangelist with a nationwide following and influence to match. his father, billy, was perhaps the most famous evangelist of them all, but franklin has taken the family ministry in a more political direction why? and from abortion to gay marriage, is he deepening america s divisions? franklin graham, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. your family name is synonymous with preaching, with evangelism. you ve been at it for, what, four decades and more. as you look at your own country, america, today. how do you feel about its moral and spiritual health? i think morally, no question, our nation is in great decline. the world i ....
taken the family ministry in a more political direction why? and from abortion to gay marriage, is he deepening america s divisions? franklin graham, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. yourfamily name is synonymous with preaching, with evangelism. you ve been at it for, what, four decades and more. as you look at your own country, america, today. how do you feel about its moral and spiritual health? i think morally, no question, our nation is in great decline. the world is, morally. and it s one of these things that we see. but we don t we don t get discouraged. we keep preaching the truth. and the truth is that god loves us, that he cares for us, that he s sent his son from heaven to this earth to take our sins. he didn t come to condemn us, he came to save us. and this is a message that we preach to every generation. why are you so convinced that you are living through an era of moral decline? just watch the news, and you see the moral decline all around us. of course, ....
please do relate to us what happened. 16th january 2009. ..were what we called a war. and what is war? war is not the soldier who is going to kill and to be killed. it s about innocent human being, in particular, women and the children. during the 21 days of the war, with my children at my home, expecting the worst, who will be killed? i used to let three of my children to sleep beside each wall, in case any shell to come, not all of them to be killed. then, 16th january, 4.45pm, i didn t believe it, because shelling, bombing was from everywhere around us. then it was my daughters and my niece that on that time. and now history repeats itself. i don t want anyone on earth to see what did i see. where is bessan? where is mayar? where is nour? where is aya? they become parts, drowning in their blood. mayar was decapitated. i can t recognise them. i lost faith in humanity at that time. and you had lost your wife to leukaemia just. four months before. ..a few months before. ....
my guest is a palestinian doctor, izzeldin abuelaish, whose three daughters and niece were killed in an israeli tank strike on his home in the gaza strip in 2009. at the time, he said he felt no bitterness. and, soon after, he published his award winning autobiography called i shall not hate. now, he has lost 22 more family members in these current bombings. is he still preaching his message of forgiveness and peace? dr izzeldin abuelaish, welcome to hardtalk. now, nearly 15 years ago, you lost three of your eight children when an israeli shell fell on your home in gaza. please do relate to us what happened. 16th january 2009. ..were what we called a war. and what is war? war is not the soldier who is going to kill and to be killed. it s about innocent human being, in particular, women and the children. during the 21 days of the war, with my children at my home, expecting the worst, who will be killed? i used to let three of my children to sleep beside each wall, in cas ....
dr izzeldin abuelaish, welcome to hardtalk. now, nearly 15 years ago, you lost three of your eight children when an israeli shell fell on your home in gaza. please do relate to us what happened. 16th january 2009. ..were what we called a war. and what is war? war is not the soldier who is going to kill and to be killed. it s about innocent human being, in particular, women and the children. during the 21 days of the war, with my children at my home, expecting the worst, who will be killed? i used to let three of my children to sleep beside each wall, in case any shell to come, not all of them to be killed. then, 16th january, 4.45pm, i didn t believe it, because shelling, bombing was from everywhere around us. then it was my daughters and my niece that on that time. and now history repeats itself. i don t want anyone on earth to see what did i see. where is bessan? where is mayar? where is nour? where is aya? they become parts, drowning in their blood. mayar was decapit ....