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And growing up with seeing dont mess with texas signs everywhere and the appreciation for the bluebonnets there and just what that means into no that she and her world as first lady influenced all of that in a way that was quite subtle and not necessarily understood at the time but that we now do understand. Now carl im going to ask you because you are a scholar of the full breadth of first ladies. Dolley madison because she was one of the first who had a real sense of duty to his constituency meaning the country. It was unusual for a woman back then too perceived as part of her proper role a sense of duty and connection to the general public to people she didnt know. Shackling candidate very strongly because of her sense of where the u. S. Was in the cold war how democracy could be presented in a way that it hadnt and in a sense america had come of age and have as much dignity and had a right to maintain that dignity on the world stage. And betty ford by taking very personal and reall

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