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Well bring our next panelists here. Thank you again for keeping your conversations a little bit more quiet on the outside by the booths so we can listen to our panelists. So this next panel is very interesting called new models of public, private cyber collaboration. The moderator is mr. Will ash. He is a senior director of Security Sales used Public Sector global Security Sales for cisco. Joining him on the panel is Major General ed wilson, United States air force retired, secretary of defense, assistant secretary of defense for cyber policy in the office of the undersecretary of defense. Also joining us is claire caroma from the Defense Digital Service ....