12 new yorkers have affirmed the principle that no one in america, not even a former president, is above the law. a jury unanimously found donald trump guilty on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. the criminal case hinged on the testimony and evidence of the trials narrator, trumps fixer turned foe, michael cohen. he joins us here now. he is the author of disloyal, the true story of a former personal attorney to president donald j trump and how trump weaponized the u.s. department of justice against his critics. is also the host of the mea pope and political podcast. i am so busy. i want to get some context here. when this all began for you in many respects, at that time trump is in the white house, you had gotten caught up in this thing on your way to prison , how, having this, full-circle and watching what occurred this week, do you appreciate that role? that narration? i thought it was very interesting and important for you to frame this chapter in this c
in u.s. history of a former president to be held accountable for the things that i have been talking about for six years. remember, the das case did not start when i was released from otis phil, it started while i was in otis phil. three times, three times the manhattan da team came to visit me there. that is where began. that s what really began. that is where the saga began. prior to the start of the trial, you were very careful, i think, not to discuss anything that the manhattan das office discussed with you. you wanted to protect the integrity of the trial. now that the verdict has come down and that these of the trial is over and we move on to sentencing. initial conversation that you had with the manhattan da office when you found out they were going to bring this case forward, what was that