to live through it, and there could very well be a suicide note posted online, at their home, that they sent to somebody else, in their pocket, you know, who knows. so if you can stay around, and cedric as well. i want toce get back to what ju happened in that courtroom and bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, and msnbc contributor, and new york times investigative correspondent sue craig. both inside to watch the proceedings. let me ask you first, and obviously were you aware inside of what was happening outside? right at the end, chris, we became aware. so there was a little bit in the overflow courtroom that we had, in fact, picked a jury of six jurors and six alternates. there started to be murmuring that there wassome who outside the courthouse has essentially self-emulated. i was sent video from one of our
she burst into tears. she said, i don t know that i can do this. i feel sokn anxious and nervous right now. and that s when she was brought over to a side bar for further questioning. and we saw that also today in the questioning with a prospective juror who revealed herself to have been convicted felony in another state, and even said, look, i don t know why i md, here. i don t think i m eligible to serve, but in the course of revealing why, her voice broke. she was tearful. she was not embarrassed per se, but it was clear that the source of her conviction was a real issue of pain for her. and so this was just a really emotional day for prospective jurors, and then to have it culminate with this, this incident here outside, i can say all the people in the courtroom i think we are, if not rattled, sort of made more sober by the events of today, the emotions and the rawness and the vulnerability that prospective
nbc news colleagues and as other people in the courtrooman saw their own footage, there began to be gasps and a hush fell over the crowd, so we were aware of the incident outside the courthouse. just at the very t last moments before coming out and coming to see you. this is obviously a much different conversation than i think sue and i anticipated we would be having with you, even as recently as five minutes ago, chris. you know, right as we learned that they had a jury, right, that the jury was impanelled, that s exactly the moment it started tot spread through the overflow room. the judge did not mention it. they re going to be back this afternoon as far as i understand. it happened right at that moment. it was just unbelievable news that spread right through the courtroom. you re absolutely right on the timing because we went to yasmin vossoughian to ask her about merchan saying we have our full panel, and she noticed it was happening out of the corner of her eye and was able t
mirrors what happened with senator langford and immigration bill. he put forward real reforms and then republicans tank the reforms, the border reforms. that s what s happening right now. you have some congressional members who are not serious, and they re hi jacking the process, andki then you have other congressional members who have legitimate questions about the ukraine aid.gi 60 billion more, it sai not enoh to decisively end the war. it s going to keep russia, you know, at bay, but it s not it s not a true strategy, and i don t think they re wrong for demandingey that. don t go anywhere, but i want to go to yasmin vossoughian because i understand, is it possible, yasmin, that we actually have a full jury now? reporter: we got it, judge juan merchan saying it himself inside the courtroom, s chris. we have our full panel. this is, chris, i feel like an incredibly historic moment if we think about ibit, right? the first former president, ex-president of the united states to be
the crowd around this area. this individual was standing in the middle of this square on his own. as i mentioned, there may have been two other individuals that were walking about within that area about 20 to 25 feet away from him. so the moment it happened, audibly i heard screams from the right of me as i was on air with you talking about the jury, in which folks were saying he has set himself on fire, a man is on fire. at that point, chris, i saw the security personnel that we ve been seeing out here all week long racing towards the entry area of this square, and to be clear, again, this area is cordoned off for protesters, right?ed so if you are here to protest, you can be in that area. to get i to where we are, you he to have an official press pass as well, so security is incredibly tight in all of these different sections that they had set up because of the former president being in the courtroom behind t me. so there was really no issue when it came to security. it was more cont