Phoebe with ambassador taylor, was he assesssatisfied that thie was now behindti him . I dont really know, because when i responded, get ahold of the secretary, and he said i agree. I never knew i whether he reach out to the secretaryhe or not. That was sort of the end at one point in the text you said lets get on the phone, you said youre an individual that doesnt like to walk through these issues on texts when you can talk about it on the 1 telephone, correct . I say that to everybody when something becomes more substantive than a few lines of text, i say, lets talk. Did you say that to ambassador taylor . I dont recall. I dont recall whether we spoke after that or whether he called the secretary. Basically, mr. Castor, wanted to get the notion across that ive gone as far as i can go with this, you need to youre the ambassador, you need to pick up the ball and run with it at this point. Okay. Just getting back to the irregular channel, did anyone else express any concerns to you abou
it s the reference to mulvaney that i want to ask you about. s you ve testified that mulvaney was aware of this quid pro quo, of this condition that thes ukrainiansit had to meet, that , announcing these public investigations to get the white house meeting, is that right? yeah, a lot of people were aware of eait. including mr. mulvaney? correct. i and including the secretary of state? correct. now, have you seen the acting chief of staff s press conference in which he acknowledged that the military aid was withheld in part because of a desire to get that 2016 investigation you ve talked about? i don t think i saw it live. i saw it later, yeah. so you saw him acknowledge publicly what you have confirmed too, that mr. mulvaney understood that two plus two equals usfour, is that right?