and can you talk about that, and we are seeing the ugly sausage being made, and people are going on the floor to vote, and you have the top deputies and sometimes them on the behind closed doors and how can you have a serious negotiation as they are running in and out of the room to vote. well, it seems like principle-level conversations to hammer out the ideas. it sounds like the roy group has appointed him and perry and maybe oneer two others to speak on their behalf, or it feels that way. and so that is a good thing, and not a bunch of the go betweens and principle to principle, and so in theory, that could expedite it. and then, when principles are making the agreement, and it has to be reduced to writing, then, we both want the same thing, and it is reduced to writing, and that is mot not what i wanted, then you are back at it.
nagt the evidence suggested there were 21 different conversations between stone and trump in the six months leading to the election. one of those conversations was about wikileaks dumps, roger stone tells trump something, trump gets off the phone and announces there s more wikileaks information coming. and so the evidence was just overwhelming. one of the go-betweens between stone and wikileaks was this guy randy credico. this is how blatant stone s lies were. stone said he didn t have any e-mail or text exchanges with ranldy credico. the evidence, they had 1,500 e-mails and text messages on the day that stone lied and said he didn t have any text or e-mail exchanges, that day he had 72. and so it s such a again, such a hit for the team for team trump. you think stone s got to be banking on a pardon.
tapes were released the trump campaign couldn t afford to have information about stormy daniels come out also because that would be more evidence of trump s women problem. so we know that hope hicksweeks. and the day after those tapes come out, there are ten calls involving cohen, hope hicks and trump. and it appears that hicks and cohen were the go-betweens between the trump campaign and the national enquirer. but here s the issue. what we have is kind of like caller id. so we know that all these calls were exchanged. we don t have the voice recording. we don t know what was said. so certainly from the circumstantial evidence, it appears that she lied when she told the house judiciary committee that she didn t know anything about the hush money payments, but proving that in a criminal case beyond a reasonable doubt, that s a more difficult issue. yeah, hope hicks lawyer put
russians hacked the election, celebrated donald trump s win, intel report identifying the go-betweens, is all of this putting president-elect in a tough spot where he s painting himself into a corner? i don t think it is, i ll tell you why, i think the democrats have turned this whole thing into politics and people back home are watching, a little bit confused. isn t this not my president. are you talking about people in the intelligence community as democrats? i think it s being used as political pawn by democrats and nontrump supporters to say this is not how you handle these things and this is what they said and cia said. and you keep getting leaks to the press in my opinion not called for at all, beyond the
does that continue? yes. reporter: intelligence officials say it s clear the man behind it all is vladimir putin. you say this was approved at the highest level of government in russia. generally speaking, is that right? that s what he said. okay. who s the highest level of government? well, the highest is president putin. you think a lot happens in russia big that he doesn t know about? not vm. yeah, i don t think so either. certainly none that are politically sensitive in another country. reporter: we re learning tonight u.s. intelligence has identified the go-betweens the russians used to provide the stolen e-mails to wikileaks. this information was included in the classified report presented to president obama today. tomorrow, president-elect trump will receive his briefing in new york from the leaders of the loou intelligence community. we ll be covering that. out front now, former cia director under president clinton, ambassador james woolsey.