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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190609:06:33:00

Right now. reporter: remarkable, right? but get this, tony says he went back two more times. and third time was like, you know, this is pointless. and he s still letting you in? no, that time we were on the patio. he actually was like, no, tony, why don t you just call me? you re becoming a regular visitor at your your wife s lover s house. well, he was more worried i think his wife is still living there. i mean, this sounds all very cordial. it is cordial. reporter: tony insists that was the last time he saw rob. that was a year before the murder. where are you that night? i went home. you re just hanging out at home? yeah. doing what? watch tv, reading, wash dishes, clean the computers. reporter: for months investigators searched for evidence that tony had crossed the river from his home in manhattan to new jersey that night. they checked cameras at all the bridge and tunnel crossings. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190609:06:04:00

I could, just to see if there was any activity, see if anybody was home. reporter: anything? all the lights were off, everything was quiet. when i went around to the side, the amount of smoke and the amount of flames the basement was fully engulfed. reporter: you have no gear nothing i also noticed that the neighbor had a spigot nearby. i was pouring water on the windowsill, but that fire inside was rolling. [ sirens ] reporter: once inside the burning house firefighters discovered a badly burned body in a basement bedroom. it was shortly before two in the morning, when bergen county arson investigator sgt. terry lawler got a wake up call from his boss. we have a fatal fire in teaneck, new jersey. gives me the address on elm avenue and says, i m headin out there. and i ll meet you there. reporter: by the time he got there the victim s body had been taken outside. the body had suffered severe burns on the front of the ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190223:09:03:00

reporter: what was happening that night? i had a flat tire earlier in the day, and i had to come back to fix it. it was raining, it was windy. it was just very miserable. reporter: when we met up with rodzen almost five years after that gloomy night, the weather had changed, but his recollections had not. started puttin all the all my tools away. for some reason, i just happened to look up, and i saw smoke goin across the street. reporter: from the corner house? from goin across from the corner house, goin across through right. so i said, okay, well lemme take a quick jog over, see what s goin on. reporter: what henry saw, once he reached the corner of terhune and elm, removed any doubt for the former volunteer firefighter. as soon as i saw that there was a bright amber glow, i knew that was definite fire. so i decided to just quickly run back to my girlfriend, i said listen, call 911, there s a house that s on fire. elm street in teaneck and it s the back ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190223:09:33:00

It. reporter: what could you gain by seeing that room? i guess, in a way, how he treat her. i remember, i was a little upset. reporter: that it was a room in the basement? yeah. it was like this like, you took sophie down here? what the hell s wrong with you? you can t go to a hotel? reporter: how angry are you when you leave? i was like, well, i d like you to stop seeing my wife. reporter: what did he say? he said, i can t answer you right now. reporter: remarkable, right? but get this, tony says he went back two more times. and third time was like, you know, this is pointless. and he s still letting you in? no, that time we were on the patio. he actually was like, no, tony, why don t you just call me? you re becoming a regular visitor at your your wife s lover s house. well, he was more worried i think his wife is still living there. i mean, this sounds all very cordial. it is cordial. reporter: tony insists that was the last time he saw ro ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190223:09:05:00

reporter: by the time he got there the victim s body had been taken outside. the body had suffered severe burns on the front of the body, more so than the back, which wasn t bad as badly burned. reporter: they would soon learn that the victim was the owner of the house, a 59-year-old man named rob cantor. his body had been found in a basement bedroom the same place where henry rodzen spotted the fire. lawler thought it strange that cantor had died so close to where the fire started. usually, you see healthy, middle-aged males and they re tryin to get away from the fire. so, maybe they re overcome by smoke. reporter: lawler wanted to look around the basement where the body was found, but it was flooded. we had to wait and have the fire department pump some of the water out so we could enter the basement and conduct our investigate. reporter: that job would take several hours giving detectives from the bergen county major crimes unit, time to question neighbors. ....

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