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Most damaging statements were not things that she witnessed herself. we have to weed out what representative kinzinger accurately says is very dangerous in terms of statements that didn t sway the public, but what prosecutors have is firsthand information. so she becomes a somewhat different kind of witness. and still an important one, but not necessarily somebody whose statements were damning of donald trump. what we know of the investments, the mar-a-lago case to joyce s point earlier is moving much more quickly. and the january 6th investigation is murkier and it s not clear and has never been clear. . we ve spoken with people with knowledge of the case and have been briefed on it, it s not something that they have that clearly ties donald trump to a prosecutable offense, something that strictly violates a statute. then the question is, is accountable for donald trump as much a political question as it is a legal question? and don t let the justice department off the hook, clearly, ....
Left election day, a big part of it, angry, and they didn t know who fundamentally to be angry about. some of them were angry at donald trump, many were angry at mitch mcconnell, many were angry at the republican establishment. and i think donald trump has one of those windows to take this anger that came out of november 8th and the lack of success they had and basically take their anger and push it and aim it somewhere else. and he s been an expert at that kind of thing. is to take sort of an anger that is amorphous and he funnels it towards something. that is my concern. while i agree with david that if it s indicted and all of that happens. and we go into a general election, i am unconvinced that what we re about to see is going to be resolved before november of 2024. watching how donald trump has operated with his folks in the courtroom and all of that, that he could make he could maintain this grievance for quite a long period of time and ....
well, nicole, i think that s certainly one of the implications. a lot of the criticism of what special counsel mueller did, people don t understand were key to what he was limited to do by the scope of his appointment order. and i m very interested to see if doj does publish the current the new special counsel s order, because that will give us an idea how broad the scope of his investigations are. now, from the attorney general s comments, it certainly to me implied that it included donald trump s conduct, but more importantly, it included potentially a large number of other people around him. folks like mark meadows and roger stone and ali alexander and mike flynn and, you know, patrick bern and roger stone, on and on and on and on. these folks who were at john eastman and jeffrey clark, these people who were at the very close circle around trump, from what the attorney general said, all of those investigations, and my potential prosecutions relating to those investigations are a ....
Him, because you couldn t get enough republicans to impeach donald trump, not once, but twice. now merrick garland comes along and everyone says the exact same things about merrick garland you just said about jeff smith. merrick garland couldn t do it because in a locked room, donald trump said, yeah, i m running again. will anybody ever deign to hold donald trump accountable to the same rule of law that the same four, five of us are held to? i think that s absolutely right. and we are well past the point in this country that we can pretend that blind faith in our legal system is warranted. donald trump has challenged the rule of law and the way our courts and our criminal justice system operates in a really unprecedented way. and i think it s okay for people to question where we are and wonder if anyone will ever hold donald trump accountable. that s the challenge that merrick garland faces and that s perhaps why joe biden faces, ....
Was mandatory to, you know, appoint a special counsel. it s never really mandatory. i realize the regulations use the word will, but it s still about when there s extraordinary circumstances or a conflict and whether and when it s in the public interest. so that gives a lot of discretion to the attorney general to make this decision. i think that, again, you know, with respect to the mar-a-lago investigations, this is something that we just talked about a few days ago on your show, nicole, i thought that because this started long, long before the former president declared his candidacy, and it was the former president who changed the status quo, that it certainly wasn t necessary for merrick garland to make this appointment. that doesn t mean i don t think that he wouldn t have made the decision to do it for prudential reasons and for appearance reasons. and i think he s very conscience of that. and again, i think, also, the fact that this appointment extends to the investigation o ....