Defenses. how do you think that will then in turn play for any negotiations between mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer? i think if they get to where in the clinton trial, as you asked, there were unanimous agreement on the rules. the rules were the way senators comported themselves and then they voted on individual witnesses, which took 51 votes. what we see with murkowski and there are a number of other at-risk republican senators, at-risk meaning re-election at risk, they re going to look at this very different. that s not acquittal. that s changing the rules so there can be witnesses and documents. and we re going to get to that. we ll be watching to see. really quickly before i let you go, we have about 30 seconds. do you think they will vote in favor of witnesses? yes. definitely. i do. all right. we ll be watching for it. great to have you with us, guy smith, we ll talk to you again soon. thanks for joining us tonight here on ac 360. let s hand it over to chris c
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And what we see is joe biden is looming large and winning in this race in most of the national polls and overwhelming number of votes that vote after the first four states, all because he can bill that coalition. you have set me up perfectly, bakari to lead me in to the next part of the statement where i want to touch on you were quoted in an article in the new york times titled but the i would vote for joe biden republicans . there is talk in the article about not just independents, but moderate republicans that would in fact go for joe biden. how big do you think that voting bloc of republicans really could be? well, first of all, it was an interesting article. i did not indicate that i would vote for joe biden. we have to see how it all plays out. i don t mean to mislead there. but you were quoted in the piece. no, no, no. i m going to have to figure out if i m ever going to tell anybody. it s a secret ballot in america.
So i think there is a number of individuals that if we get the enthusiasm and energy, whomever it may be, and i think joe biden probably right now has the best chance to do that, should focus on energizing those voters who chose the couch over hillary clinton and donald trump, not worrying about the small sliver who may or may not hold their nose and vote for donald trump. governor kasich, bakari seller, great to have you both with us. thank you. thank you. up next, the holiday buzz in washington. new reporting the president is searching for his next secretary of state. that, of course, would be number three. why there could soon be a vacancy, and who is on the list of contenders when 360 continues.
Republicans and moderates and independents are sick and tired of donald trump, but no one is counting on that small sliver of the country. republicans, we always get to this point, but i think governor kasich will agree with me, republicans, they always fall in love. democrats excuse me. republicans fall in lines. democrats like to fall in love. at the end of the day, many of them will hold their nose and vote for donald trump, understanding what they will get. what democrats have to focus on and whether or not it s joe biden or bernie sanders or i really don t believe michael bloomberg will win any delegates, but whoever it may be, there are four million voters who voted for barack obama in 2012 who did not come out and vote at all in 2016. a third of those were african americans. so i think there is a number of individuals that if we get the enthusiasm and energy, whomever it may be, and i think joe biden probably right now has the best chance to do that, should focus on energizing