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The cdc saying the united states has recorded the highest rate of gun related deaths in a quarter century and the pandemic likely is a big factor in pushing up the number of murders and suicide where guns were used. and let s discuss now. executive director of the university of chicago crime lab, in education lab. thank you both for joining us. rosanna, i m going to start with you, terrible news, a record number of gun deaths in 2020, 35% increase in homicides from 2019 to 2020. i mean, this was the first year of the pandemic, what happened to cause this surge? well, you know, unfortunately, even before the pandemic, the united states really had an uncon high rate of gun vierns, we were not starting in a good place, and then you take a once in a century pandemic, and then combined with a lot of crisis or ....