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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111127:20:34:00

Opinion and shared oh, my god, he s innocent. we ve got to get him out. but what would the alleged victims of stoll s sex ring have to say about that? one by one stoll s lawyers tracked them down. remember little donny grafton? margie grafton s son? he testified in 1984 that stoll and his mom forced him into orgies. didn t they? she never did anything wrong. donald grafton, now grown, says it never happened. he tells us authorities pressured him to lie. i was just tricked into lying to put my mom into prison. in other words, if you said what they wanted you to say, you would get your life back? yeah. you d get your mother back? go back to normal. did john stoll ever molest you? no. do you know if john stoll ever molested any of those kids who went to that house? i never saw it. i never heard about it. i never even thought about it. i went swimming there a few times. a handful of times. this is ed sampley. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111127:20:38:00

sampley and the others say they were finally told what to say. not only by social worker morillo, but also by a prosecutor. they did coach us totally. they made us go over stories over and over. children, manipulated says sampley, by powerful authority figures. now as adults, they took the stand and proclaimed john stoll innocent. grown men reverted to little boys. they exhumed humiliating guilt riddled memories. they sat up on the stand and they looked down at john stoll in the courtroom and they begged for his forgiveness. to see him sitting up there, tears running down looking over at me telling me how sorry they were. i apologize, john. oh, man. but if the young men thought their new testimony would make everything better and get john stoll out of prison, they weren t so sure once the case was heard. for one thing, ed jagels, the ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111127:20:37:00

for these boys, the story was the same. after first being visited by this social worker, velda morillo, seen here in an old training tape. she came to their homes with the sheriff s officer, but she asked most of the questions they told us. took them to a room away from their parents and told them she knew they had been molested by stoll after swimming in his pool. the more they denied it, they told us, the more she seemed convinced they were hiding something. grafton says he and his brother were put into foster care until they cooperated. sampley says he felt badgered by morillo and the officer. in the end, more than a 7-year-old could handle. they wouldn t go away. so how could you make it go away? if i told them that something had happened. and they kept asking over and over the same questions and all i kept saying is nothing ever happened. but you changed your story? yes. why? because if not, i could get in trouble. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110821:17:35:00

yeah. you d get your mother back? go back to normal. did john stoll ever molest you? no. do you know if john stoll ever molested any of those kids who went to that house? i never saw it. i never heard about it. i never even thought about it. i went swimming there a few times. a handful of times. this is ed sampley. he was 8 when he testified stoll had assaulted him. sometimes just out of the blue it would come up, for whatever reason i d think about it. this was haunting? yeah, it was. haunting because sampley, one of stoll s alleged victims, says the man never touched him. this man was totally innocent. it s hard to understand how i could fabricate a lie like that. then there was this young man who has asked not to be identified. he also testified against stoll. i knew i was lying, but they told me i had to. do you remember how you felt ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110821:17:38:00

In the end, more than a 7-year-old could handle. they wouldn t go away. so how could you make it go away? if i told them that something had happened. and they kept asking over and over the same questions and all i kept saying is nothing ever happened. but you changed your story? yes. why? because if not, i could get in trouble. sampley and the others say they were finally told what to say. not only by social worker morillo, but also by a prosecutor. they did coach us totally. they made us go over stories over and over. children, manipulated says sampley, by powerful authority figures. now as adults, they took the stand and proclaimed john stoll innocent. grown men reverted to little boys. they exhumed humiliating guilt riddled memories. they sat up on the stand and they looked down at john stoll in the courtroom and they begged ....

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