suggest they would somehow lie to the senate and the president. all right. chris, thank you. we re hearing from the critics of this report raising questions about morality and what s the moral tradeoff for intelligence that could save lives. interrogation has been one of those gray areas of our national security and few know better than my next guest. charlie meek spent 15 months in iraq as an interrogator and full disclosure, charlie meek is my cousin. welcome back to the show. thank you so much. thanks for all of your time serving our country. i honor you for that. let s talk about when you were in iraq, you speak arabic. you looked at these detainees in the eyes. just tell me as an interrogator, what were you assigned to do? well, i was on a shift with general mcchrystal s task force 16 and our job was to dismantle