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Stage is [ inaudible ] but if the health summit was any indication we can expect at least a passing glimpse of the welterweight wonk. what do i mean when i say that? first year the bill has ten years of tax increases half a trillion dollars, about ten years of medicare cuts half a trillion dollars to pay for six years of spending. john heilemann, scranton joe versus the welterweight wonk, you had a masterful profile on joe biden a few weeks ago in new york magazine and i want what are your expectations as far as biden going into this debate? i could watch old biden debate tape forever. the one liners, asides, god love themes. will we see that a lot? i think the vice president is eager for this debate. he was eager for it before and he s been preparing a lot. he s systematically underrated as a debater and one of the things i pointed out in that ....