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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell 20210819 19:09:00

Failed. look, at the moment i have my journalists here inside the airport. you see most of the videos by that journalist. didn t understand who needs to get in. instead of pointing an american gun on these people, we should have had a better plan, who should get in. if you re siv or ally or citizen or activist, there has been confusion to this day. when you call the hotline state department, they tell you to fill out a form. a lot of these people contact me. there is an issue that government needs to be honest with the people and instead of pointing guns at them, you have to make a better plan. we can still prevent a disaster over there. what i am seeing right now is it has been a complete failure in execution of the plan. we had thousands of u.s. citizens and green card holders, even u.s. personnel stuck at the airport while this premature withdrawal or exit took place. i just see there could be one of the things that really frightens me is that, who knows, there

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell 20210819 19:04:00

Way that ned price isn t. you saw what the reality is, as we are all seeing at the airport and how hard it is to get people out right now. they still don t have an answer of what they re going to do for the people who are not right at the airport. reporter: they don t. but they do actually have an answer because they sort of are suggesting that it s okay, that they ve opened up a new gate, that there aren t closures and if there are, they re brief. that s troubling because the messages coming from the airport are that we ve got a hold of this. i was there tuesday. it may be there s a shocking change not evidenced by the number of videos coming out today that show even worse scenes outside the airport. this 6,000 number essentially suggesting in the last 24 hours or so they ve almost got through processing as many people as since this operation began.

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell 20210819 19:27:00

For fear of what the taliban may do, he just didn t want to go there at all. i thought that was pretty surprising. he is clearly in a position where his words aren t always matching what we re seeing. so he said, hey, my first thought was we ve got to get control of this situation and we did. we ve heard from the pentagon that indeed operationally they are in control of the airport. when we see the chaos that still exists from reporters on the ground and getting images on the ground to match the president s description of what s going on, that still seems a mission this white house is on. because you were on the ground in afghanistan for 13 months in kabul, i want to ask you about what former vice president mike pence wrote. he said when mr. biden became president, he quickly announced that u.s. forces would remain in afghanistan for an additional four months without a clear reason for doing so. there was no plan to transport

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell 20210819 19:10:00

Could be a taliban who could be a terrorist on that plane, take them to qatar and next day he s in virginia or somewhere. let me ask you, you know the challenges to getting to and on one of those planes because you re going through this with your parents. where are they in the process? my parents are not going anywhere to the airport. they are somewhere in kabul. i spoke to my mom. she was saying she left and she told me, you know what, we are used to this. you know, within the blink of an eye in 1996 taliban knocked on our door asking for guns. it s just people are so used to it. i think president ghani should not have betrayed his people, should not have fled the country. he should have been loyal to the

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell 20210819 19:22:00

Message out in comparison with the chaotic images you were seeing coming from the airport when those are images that stunned even top aides inside the white house who said they did not see that coming, they were not expecting that. they were trying to remind people why the president made this decision. there are still questions about how this drawdown went down. what you re seeing from president biden in this interview is he still is being defiant. that s not surprising. he is still using the same rationale for leaving afghanistan, also not surprising. when he says he can t envision any kind of exit from afghanistan that wasn t chaotic, it stands in contradiction with what he s been saying for the last several months. the white house says the intelligence changes. but president biden had been saying publicly he thought it would be a safe and orderly

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